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Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:21 am
by Kuulikindel1
Why does it have to be such a pain in the universe.. is it like somekind of broken troll mechanics or what seems to be the problem. You need to be at so specific angle to start the build.
Is there a right way to do it? Sometimes even planting braziers first and building wall later works, but sometimes it does not.

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:40 am
by Nikixos
This is how i do it:
Shift + mousewheel to rotate brazier.
Find which rotation works and build the brazier, copy the rotation for next braziers. (Diagonals don't work this is why you have to do it like this)

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:55 am
by Kuulikindel1
Thx for the advice man. Situation like that Where you have:
X = Cornerpost
O = wall segment
Z = Brazier

Is it even possible or not?
X O O
O Z
O

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:13 am
by LOMS
Kuulikindel1 wrote:Thx for the advice man. Situation like that Where you have:
X = Cornerpost
O = wall segment
Z = Brazier

Is it even possible or not?
X O O
O Z
O


Possible. Get a practice in rotation of "placing objects".

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 11:55 am
by Kuulikindel1
LOMS wrote:Possible. Get a practice in rotation of "placing objects".


Ok Mr. LOMS. I have a question for you since you are an avid object placer.
Situation:
X = Cornerpost
0 = Wall Segment
ZZZ
ZMZ == Maple plant
ZZZ

Is this situation possible or not?

X 0 0 0
0 Z Z Z
0 Z M Z
X Z Z Z

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:35 pm
by ToorimaKun
Kuulikindel1 wrote:is it like some kind of broken troll mechanic

both

from what i understand you are not suppose to be able to place a brazer next to a wall... or trees....
JC says he doesn't like the clipping of trees next to objects... kinda funny since i had just said that a lot of the fun in making a base is making it look cool... and he said looks don't matter. >.>
not sure the reasoning behind the brazers tho...

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 3:17 pm
by Kandarim
in order to make it impossible for braziers to be part of your wall.
brazier walls were very much a thing before that nerf.
Hell, tree walls were once the top notch of base defence because they took so much longer to chop down than it took to destroy plank fence (because tree speed is set and plank fence at the time had a lower soak and infinitely scaling damage with max phlegm).

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:48 pm
by ToorimaKun
Kandarim wrote:in order to make it impossible for braziers to be part of your wall.
brazier walls were very much a thing before that nerf.
Hell, tree walls were once the top notch of base defence because they took so much longer to chop down than it took to destroy plank fence (because tree speed is set and plank fence at the time had a lower soak and infinitely scaling damage with max phlegm).


there is a difference between making it 1 space from each other and 1 space from each other, walls and buildings...
not to mention that trees are pretty quick to chop down now days.

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:58 pm
by Nikixos
ToorimaKun wrote:
Kandarim wrote:in order to make it impossible for braziers to be part of your wall.
brazier walls were very much a thing before that nerf.
Hell, tree walls were once the top notch of base defence because they took so much longer to chop down than it took to destroy plank fence (because tree speed is set and plank fence at the time had a lower soak and infinitely scaling damage with max phlegm).


there is a difference between making it 1 space from each other and 1 space from each other, walls and buildings...
not to mention that trees are pretty quick to chop down now days.

You don't need 1 space from walls wtf are you talking about lol
BTW You Do need one space from buildings because buildings take a week to burn down with greek fire and i'm not sure if raiders can even destroy braziers as easy as it was before.

Walls of trees was a thing back in the days but it was not intended and the game treats them as buildings because it was easier to code i guess...

Re: Planting Braziers next to Brick wall.

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:20 pm
by TotalyMeow
All structures that take a long time to remove were often being used to make 'structure walls' at one time. So, we added requirements for some things to have a space around them. We added the space around houses and braziers and the like. Trees were actually done by the previous devs and John decided he preferred it stay that way because none of us ever liked the ugly tree walls and because despite that they now chop faster than most walls break, they still don't splash so removing the space would probably result in tree walls cropping up everywhere again.