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Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:36 am
by Heffernan
Hello

1) what does improve the quality of rubble? MM?
2) what does increased quality of rubble do? increase output of black sand/gold/jewels?

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:46 am
by Argentis
For all I know:

1) Yes
2) Yes

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:00 am
by Heffernan
Argentis wrote:For all I know:

1) Yes
2) Yes


anyone able to confirm?

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:00 am
by McTc
1)yes, gives lower hardness
2)doesn't seem to increase output of black sand, seems pretty random to me. however has direct impact on gem that came out of rubble and it's hardness, which also defines how easy it is to cut it to shape.

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:44 am
by Magubba
1. M&M increase Aether of rubble, decrease a little only difficulty.
2. Lower lvl of mines and distance to ladder increase carats for gems.

That what i found for myself since patch i lvl'd M&M +140 points and
: gives less difficulty at rubble
: higher Aether (1st floor 10 sqm from lader 10% aether)
: don't inrease amount of black sands/gold/ gems - random a lot sometimes from 10 boulders that i'm sieve i get 4 BS some other times around 50

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:52 am
by Heffernan
Magubba wrote:: don't inrease amount of black sands/gold/ gems - random a lot sometimes from 10 boulders that i'm sieve i get 4 BS some other times around 50


this is totally sad you sometimes do 1 run and get a single gem or black sand thinking its not even worth..

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:58 am
by McTc
Magubba wrote:1. M&M increase Aether of rubble, decrease a little only difficulty.
2. Lower lvl of mines and distance to ladder increase carats for gems.

That what i found for myself since patch i lvl'd M&M +140 points and
: gives less difficulty at rubble
: higher Aether (1st floor 10 sqm from lader 10% aether)
: don't inrease amount of black sands/gold/ gems - random a lot sometimes from 10 boulders that i'm sieve i get 4 BS some other times around 50


well, doesn't matter if i cut pre patch boulder, deep mined one or one from lvl 3, with 220 mines i get average 25 decrease on hardness, up to 33 that i have seen, therefore mines do affect hardness. also aether but since RNG is in there, i still get 0% and 8% on two rocks mined right next to eachother.

your carats point seems to be invalid, also i remember JC saying that carats are mostly luck based. with my experience, 0.03 and 1.82 can come from same spot(few boulders apart), however deep down i still hope that going deeper will yeld higher carats.

on my hauls of roughly 200 rubble each, i mostly get about 17-18 black sand, have got as low as 5 and as high as 30-35ish

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:04 pm
by DarkNacht
Heffernan wrote:
Magubba wrote:: don't inrease amount of black sands/gold/ gems - random a lot sometimes from 10 boulders that i'm sieve i get 4 BS some other times around 50


this is totally sad you sometimes do 1 run and get a single gem or black sand thinking its not even worth..

Gut up YB and your runs will be much bigger and more efficient.

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:32 pm
by Magubba
DarkNacht wrote:
Heffernan wrote:
Magubba wrote:: don't inrease amount of black sands/gold/ gems - random a lot sometimes from 10 boulders that i'm sieve i get 4 BS some other times around 50


this is totally sad you sometimes do 1 run and get a single gem or black sand thinking its not even worth..

Gut up YB and your runs will be much bigger and more efficient.



10 Boulders is 75 kg (150 rubble) enought for one leave from mine

Re: Mining questions

PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:50 pm
by Kandarim
remember that you can carry twice your carrying weight, and that you can double that again with some eggs.