Using a HS with a new char at the wilderness guide

by **Arkadion** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:01 pm

What happens if I make a new character and use a HS at the wilderness guide? I am trying to understand the mechanics to defend myself.

My leanto will be on their claim. If he has braziers, will they KO me? If yes, what will the owner be able to do to me? Also, if I make a base so tight together that a leanto can't be placed, where will a new char be spawned (if possible)?

by **MagicManICT** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:08 pm

If you use a HS at the guide, your character gets ported to the player with that HS. This has the following conditions: A) that player has a homestead, and B) the homestead is a personal claim. If those are true, you have a lean-to homestead placed nearby. If you know the HS exists, but the area is very cluttered, it may take more than one attempt to port to that location.

by **Kreek** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:57 pm

From personal experience. If you port into the claim and you do not have permissions, you will not be able to move anywhere without turning on criminal acts and then trespassing. I also iirc you will not be able to port back to Boston or log out.

I would guess that braziers would not fire on you, because you have not committed a crime. But I may be wrong about this.

by **MagicManICT** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:18 pm

Good point, Kreek, and one I always forget to mention, as trespassing will cause issues in Salem (keep forgetting a few of the differences between here and that other game). No, you won't be able to port at this point in time, so if you're joining friends, make sure to do this when the person you are porting to is online.

Note that if you're just trying to spawn at random HS's, I'd avoid that, as one could consider it brute force password attempts and it could lead to negative consequences.

Braziers don't fire on simple trespass. Would have to dig up exact requirements for anything else.

by **Kandarim** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:23 pm

MagicManICT wrote:Braziers don't fire on simple trespass. Would have to dig up exact requirements for anything else.

they do, though.
Not always, but i've had braziers fire from the first trespass before

by **Arkadion** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:42 pm

So giving someone my HS would be a safe thing, since they can't port to Boston if I don't give them permissions, even if they make the lean-to. And if I leave no space available for a lean-to, it might even not end on my claim. Thank you.

by **pistolshrimp** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:54 pm

I think you should further refine your question. Are you trying to bring one of your own new characters to somone elses Homestead or someone else coming to yours, or one of your new characters to your own homestead? You know you can destroy a leanto on your own claim without leaving scents or needing waste right?

I ask all this because giving out a HS is not necessarly a safe thing to do when you have your claim set as your homestread. Do you have any scents out on you?

by **Arkadion** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:38 pm

No scents. I just asked this to know what I need to take into consideration before giving my HS.

by **Mereni** » Fri Oct 31, 2014 10:21 pm

Arkadion wrote:So giving someone my HS would be a safe thing, since they can't port to Boston if I don't give them permissions, even if they make the lean-to. And if I leave no space available for a lean-to, it might even not end on my claim. Thank you.

Giving a stranger your HS isn't safe, neither is having one set if you're homesteaded on a claimstone. Someone can port an alt to your claim, and as long as it doesn't move, it won't KO. Raiders can use that alt to locate your base. Also, the claimstone smokes for 5 mintues after an alt ports, and can be destroyed during that time no matter if it's paid. So if said raiders manage to break down your walls, they can port in a new alt and destroy your claimstone and suddenly you have no defenses.

by **Arkadion** » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:01 am

Mereni wrote:
Arkadion wrote:So giving someone my HS would be a safe thing, since they can't port to Boston if I don't give them permissions, even if they make the lean-to. And if I leave no space available for a lean-to, it might even not end on my claim. Thank you.

Giving a stranger your HS isn't safe, neither is having one set if you're homesteaded on a claimstone. Someone can port an alt to your claim, and as long as it doesn't move, it won't KO. Raiders can use that alt to locate your base. Also, the claimstone smokes for 5 mintues after an alt ports, and can be destroyed during that time no matter if it's paid. So if said raiders manage to break down your walls, they can port in a new alt and destroy your claimstone and suddenly you have no defenses.

Thank you for clearing that up. Is there a thread or a place where all this is explained? Building a town bell would be safer?

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