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I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:16 pm
by porcobuddha
As a new player I find this debuff to be really annoying.
Just by eating a piece of food I get 40 minutes of debuff and since I don't have lot of time to play the game (max 3-4 hours a day) I can't afford to buy bottles for potions.
Will the time of the debuff be nerfed in an upcoming patch?

Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:22 pm
by Thor
I suggest you try gulping various foods to get around 16-24 hours with the timer. It's a bit more ineffective than eating in "tamagotchi mode" but doesn't require you to be online all the time.

Oh, and it has been already nerfed quite a bit.

Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:29 pm
by Mereni
The new mechanic where your sugar and spice lessens the debuff is something to consider. Get a few points in Sugar & Spice proficiency and you'll notice the debuff is not so long for the same foods.

Also, some foods are better than others for different levels. Try looking at the wiki page on gluttony food which is sortable by humor, and the wiki pay on Gluttony which offers advice on what to eat.

Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:14 pm
by porcobuddha
Thanks guys!

Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:17 pm
by JohnCarver
porcobuddha wrote:As a new player I find this debuff to be really annoying.
Just by eating a piece of food I get 40 minutes of debuff and since I don't have lot of time to play the game (max 3-4 hours a day) I can't afford to buy bottles for potions.
Will the time of the debuff be nerfed in an upcoming patch?


Yes it would be nice if there was a bit more in-game documentation and help in this area and we will be working on that. If you are eating a single food, and stopping, you will have a very difficult time advancing. However, once you understand a "smarter" way to eat in sessions to receive the bonus' you will notice that the buff really starts to be an issue once you have 20+ to your humours. If you got 40 minutes, and are very new, it sounds like you are eating food that is too high. As a new player I try to stick to berries and other foods in the sub 20 minute range.

Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:07 pm
by Champie
I copied the table from the wiki and put it into Excel so I could sort the items better and create "cheat sheets" for gluttony. I have attached screenshots of a list of items and their gluttony values. The list is filtered for each humor with a gluttony value greater than ZERO, and then sorted by lowest debuff timer.

The 35 gluttony foods that give BLOOD > 0, sorted by lowest debuff timer
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The 35 gluttony foods that give PHLEGM > 0, sorted by lowest debuff timer
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The 35 gluttony foods that give YELLOW BILE > 0, sorted by lowest debuff timer
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Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:08 pm
by Champie
The 35 gluttony foods that give BLACK BILE > 0, sorted by lowest debuff timer
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Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:18 pm
by Thor
Heroic work, Champie.

Re: I don't get the point of "full and fed up" debuff

PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 10:57 am
by porcobuddha
Really thanks Champie O_O