Braziers and 3 walls?

[staxjax]

Braziers, as far as I know, will fire after trespassing and 2 destroy actions.

[Nixman]

What about adding a tiered wall system, instead of having to build 3 separate walls you can 'reinforce' a single wall 3 times. Instead of having to stack width wise, you can stack it upwards instead.

In more detail:
Walls can be reinforced 3 times, they start off as a basic tier (as they are now)
Tier 2, Solid Wall adds a little graphics to it, say spikes on the top. Cant build another wall within 2 tiles.
Tier 3, Strong Wall also adds additional graphics, maybe make the top part thicker. Cant build another wall within 3 tiles.
Each time a reinforced wall is attacked, it will be reduced to the previous tier and also add a criminal action.

I believe this will create a better wall system while keeping the current mechanics in place.

[Sevenless]

What about adding a tiered wall system, instead of having to build 3 separate walls you can 'reinforce' a single wall 3 times. Instead of having to stack width wise, you can stack it upwards instead.

In more detail:
Walls can be reinforced 3 times, they start off as a basic tier (as they are now)
Tier 2, Solid Wall adds a little graphics to it, say spikes on the top. Cant build another wall within 2 tiles.
Tier 3, Strong Wall also adds additional graphics, maybe make the top part thicker. Cant build another wall within 3 tiles.
Each time a reinforced wall is attacked, it will be reduced to the previous tier and also add a criminal action.

I believe this will create a better wall system while keeping the current mechanics in place.

S'not a bad idea imo, but it's come up before and I don't believe the devs have mentioned liking it yet. To be fair, not sure how much of the forum they get around to reading either.

[Mushibag]

I've been told by raiders that you can bash 2 walls and only have the third wall actually start up the defenses.

Tresspassing, as far as I know, does nothing towards the brazier activation.

I've been told by my own experience that you can only bash 2 walls without triggering braziers if the claim only covers the wall and doesn't go past it. If you have to trespass in order to destroy that first wall, attacking the second wall will trigger braziers. That's why I chimed in on this thread, people who don't even play the game are passing out misinformation.

[jwhitehorn]

I've been told by my own experience that you can only bash 2 walls without triggering braziers if the claim only covers the wall and doesn't go past it. If you have to trespass in order to destroy that first wall, attacking the second wall will trigger braziers. That's why I chimed in on this thread, people who don't even play the game are passing out misinformation.

Awww... I was kinda enjoying watching the community ramp up the # of walls that can be hit over and over. It was up to 3 walls w/o triggering awhile ago.

But yes Mushibag is right. Its 1 wall then 2nd fires. The crime is based off where you are STANDING however. So if you are standing OFF a claim then the first wall you break does not count towards the 1 free wall.

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[Kaol]

So in other words it's bugged but noone bothered to report it?

[Mushibag]

It doesn't seem like a bug to me, otherwise I would have reported it. I think it's more a lesson in "Extend your claim past your walls."

[Kaol]

If something itself is on a claim and it gets attacked then than should count as a vandalism surely? It sounds like a bug. For example if you were on the inside of the wall for some reason then presumably that counts towards the required number of crimes but just because you are the other side it dosn't? Surely where you are standing should not matter in a crime of vandalism?

[Kaol]

As for walls stacking on top of each other i'm not sure its a good idea. Part of the reason the best walls are good is their efficiency in space. It wouldn't be too hard to convert my quad stone hedge into a quad-triple stone hedge which is like 12 layers of stone hedge. Building 12 layers of hedge is impractical due to space considerations.

[Mushibag]

If something itself is on a claim and it gets attacked then than should count as a vandalism surely? It sounds like a bug. For example if you were on the inside of the wall for some reason then presumably that counts towards the required number of crimes but just because you are the other side it dosn't? Surely where you are standing should not matter in a crime of vandalism?

If you are standing in a public area, and spray-paint a wall of a building, you can be charged with the crime of vandalism (1 crime). However, if you go onto private property to spray-paint a wall of a building, you can be charged with trespassing and vandalism (2 crimes). Seems logical to me.