i know you enjoy talking out of your ass for the sake of doing so, but when platoon A and platoon B of division C of the united states military go into theater and platoon A is caught on video punching little kids and kicking puppies but platoon B is not, platoon B still looks like jackasses because both are part of division C thus the same group, and indeed the US military loses face as well since again division C is part of it.
furthermore using your own standard of measure an "alliance" is a group, they are your group. you have simply lost any notable influence within your group so you try to pretend that you are a different entity, nope
