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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby ArgentRhapsody » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:24 pm

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It's certainly not on the subject of thread, but you need to learn more about raiding mechanics and materials prices. Firstly, you can not build braziers and torchpost close to each other. Secondly, brick wall is very cheap and you should to build it everywhere. Thirdly, iron wall is very expensive and your very big. Fourthly, you have too few braziers, every point of your defense should be within range of at least 10-15 braziers and 20-30 torchposts. And last, if your wall will break, raiders immediately destroy all braziers, so you need to protect them with transverse walls.


so should I add a 2nd brazier line behind all the current braziers in addition to spacing out the torchposts and maybe having a 2nd line of them too? In addition to protective walls for the defenses. that's a good idea, I was thinking about it already, but it will probably be in the final design.
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby ArgentRhapsody » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:26 pm

Paradoxyc wrote:Don't worry too much about it, no one is really raiding anymore. Just make yourself a nice looking base and defend it after

Well, they might not be raiding right now, but isn't raiding due for a buff/overhaul soon? Not to mention cannons possibly becoming a thing in the future. The last thing I want to do is make a weakly defended base and then lose everything later because raiders suddenly made a comeback due to a patch. I'd like to be prepared for every eventuality.

But I don't know, I don't have that much experience with these things.
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby Rifmaster » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:44 pm

Paradoxyc wrote:Don't worry too much about it, no one is really raiding anymore.


Thats not true.
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby Paradoxyc » Mon Oct 10, 2016 8:46 pm

Rifmaster wrote:
Paradoxyc wrote:Don't worry too much about it, no one is really raiding anymore.


Thats not true.


From what I've seen (or not seen), there hasn't been a good active player raid in a long while
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby TotalyMeow » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:00 pm

Last I heard about it, John has no intention of making cannons a thing on Providence, ever. They're an expedition only mechanic meant to make things more exciting on a short term server.

Baby Braziers can be lifted. So, you're meant to have a few ready to go and when a raider attacks, you're piling them up next to the attack site as a spot defense. They're to help you actively defend a base.
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby ArgentRhapsody » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:31 am

TotalyMeow wrote:Last I heard about it, John has no intention of making cannons a thing on Providence, ever. They're an expedition only mechanic meant to make things more exciting on a short term server.

Baby Braziers can be lifted. So, you're meant to have a few ready to go and when a raider attacks, you're piling them up next to the attack site as a spot defense. They're to help you actively defend a base.

oh, I see. but can't they be used as part of the regular defense, too? they can be lifted out of the way if you need to repair walls later. seems like they'd make it that much more painful to get in whether you're actively defending or not
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby Taipion » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:41 am

TotalyMeow wrote:Last I heard about it, John has no intention of making cannons a thing on Providence, ever. They're an expedition only mechanic meant to make things more exciting on a short term server.

Baby Braziers can be lifted. So, you're meant to have a few ready to go and when a raider attacks, you're piling them up next to the attack site as a spot defense. They're to help you actively defend a base.


That is an interesting approach, but chances are high that you won't even be there when someone tries to raid your base, therefore NEVER leave them just somewhere, but put them to use, that is, close to a wall.

Baby braziers fit between normal braziers, you cant build them there, but lift and place them there if you aligned the normal braziers right.

They are, if left unattended, much weaker than normal braziers, but if constantly refilled as part of an active defense, can be really strong.

So you can conclude, it has little value to just spam them in between normal braziers at the full length of your wall without you being there when a raid comes, but little is better than nothing.


If you want to use them, I'd start with placing them in between your normal braziers/TPs near doors, as those are a natural weak spot if you are not at home. (but a strong point if you are)
When you are there while being attacked, you can still re-arrange them as necessary.
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby Lazun123 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:57 am

From what i have experienced, walls and a large Pclaim adds so much protection. The bile drain while raiding is retarded.
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby TotalyMeow » Tue Oct 11, 2016 4:10 am

Taipion is correct. Their lack of much fuel and small damage makes them not worthwhile to spam along a whole wall. Storing them next to your gates is probably the best idea for what to do with them when you're not actually being raided.
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Re: Best program to design a base with? Could use tips on it

Postby tack » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:40 am

baby braziers do have the advantage that they use pig iron which is always at the NPC stall not wrought iron that can only be bought from player if anys even on sale, this meens a humble hermit cotton farmer can earn enough to build a low level fire zone until they can find wrought for sale.
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