TbF Questions

[Taipion]

3. I don't know all the ins and outs of cannons, but I can tell you they can break down anything a raider can, but they don't affect all structures. Walls are affected but otherwise I can't tell you what else is or isn't. I don't know if you can light a cannon on a claim, maybe as a crime, but they have a fairly long range so it shouldn't be a big issue.

Iirc:
- mine entrances are not effected by cannons, pretty much everything else is
- lighting a cannon on a foreign claim is a waste crime

[TotalyMeow]

Q1: Can a PClaim only be removed by a Townbell if the member of the town who wishes to remove it can see the PClaim? I'm not talking about hiding it under some sort of weird structure placement/logs or whatever, I mean if the PClaim is big enough where a raider would have to go through several tons of walls before they had a chance to spend silver to remove the PClaim(See it), and in other words it would also cost a ton of silver to remove it.

Q2: Does a PClaim get drained of silver from a TbF or does it only drain silver of a Town/ aka Authority?

1. I have never actually done an eminent domain so I don't really know how that works. I think the town claim just has to touch the pclaim and have enough authority, 2 silver for each square of the pclaim.

2. It only drains from the town it is build off, you can't build one off a pclaim, so no, it doesn't drain from a pclaim.

[MaxPlanck]

Q1: Can a PClaim only be removed by a Townbell if the member of the town who wishes to remove it can see the PClaim? I'm not talking about hiding it under some sort of weird structure placement/logs or whatever, I mean if the PClaim is big enough where a raider would have to go through several tons of walls before they had a chance to spend silver to remove the PClaim(See it), and in other words it would also cost a ton of silver to remove it.

Q2: Does a PClaim get drained of silver from a TbF or does it only drain silver of a Town/ aka Authority?

2. It only drains from the town it is build off, you can't build one off a pclaim, so no, it doesn't drain from a pclaim.

Sorry if I worded the second question weird. I was actually wondering if a raider put a TbF that covered my own PClaim with its waste radius would the PClaim lose silver per hour just like when a TownBell is under attack by a TbF?

[Taipion]

Q1: Can a PClaim only be removed by a Townbell if the member of the town who wishes to remove it can see the PClaim? I'm not talking about hiding it under some sort of weird structure placement/logs or whatever, I mean if the PClaim is big enough where a raider would have to go through several tons of walls before they had a chance to spend silver to remove the PClaim(See it), and in other words it would also cost a ton of silver to remove it.

Q2: Does a PClaim get drained of silver from a TbF or does it only drain silver of a Town/ aka Authority?

2. It only drains from the town it is build off, you can't build one off a pclaim, so no, it doesn't drain from a pclaim.

Sorry if I worded the second question weird. I was actually wondering if a raider put a TbF that covered my own PClaim with its waste radius would the PClaim lose silver per hour just like when a TownBell is under attack by a TbF?

Why should it do that? I mean draining the silver of a pclaim or townbell under TbF?
Doesn't a TbF only drain from the town that made it?

Also, yea, from what I remember the town claim only needs to touch the pclaim that you want to remove, so having your own town claim and pclaim the same size is beneficial.
Though, I think to use eminent domain, there has to be enough authority a.k.a. silver in the townbell, as Meow correctly said 2 silver per tile you want to de-claim.
That does mean, if you have just a basic town claim of ~10k tiles covered with a pclaim, the attacker would need to raise his attack-townbells authority to 20k to do it, which is a lot of stones/crosses already.

[Nikixos]

Town influence need to touch claim stone to use eminent domain. A claim longer than a town can not be eminent domained.

[MaxPlanck]

Q1: Can a PClaim only be removed by a Townbell if the member of the town who wishes to remove it can see the PClaim? I'm not talking about hiding it under some sort of weird structure placement/logs or whatever, I mean if the PClaim is big enough where a raider would have to go through several tons of walls before they had a chance to spend silver to remove the PClaim(See it), and in other words it would also cost a ton of silver to remove it.

Q2: Does a PClaim get drained of silver from a TbF or does it only drain silver of a Town/ aka Authority?

2. It only drains from the town it is build off, you can't build one off a pclaim, so no, it doesn't drain from a pclaim.

Sorry if I worded the second question weird. I was actually wondering if a raider put a TbF that covered my own PClaim with its waste radius would the PClaim lose silver per hour just like when a TownBell is under attack by a TbF?

Why should it do that? I mean draining the silver of a pclaim or townbell under TbF?
Doesn't a TbF only drain from the town that made it?

Also, yea, from what I remember the town claim only needs to touch the pclaim that you want to remove, so having your own town claim and pclaim the same size is beneficial.
Though, I think to use eminent domain, there has to be enough authority a.k.a. silver in the townbell, as Meow correctly said 2 silver per tile you want to de-claim.
That does mean, if you have just a basic town claim of ~10k tiles covered with a pclaim, the attacker would need to raise his attack-townbells authority to 20k to do it, which is a lot of stones/crosses already.

Oh...Now that I reread the wiki after your statement I feel silly. I always thought that TbF's drained the town it was covering with the waste claim and not just allowed for waste to happen. I've been trying to wrap my head around whether or not getting a Town with a huge radius or expanding a PClaim so big that it would take time for raiders to push inward to build more authority objects to even attempt to delete the PClaim. Having a town means raiders have to spend a lot of silver to continue assaulting it but on the other hand you have to protect all of your own authority objects with and if a raider destroys one authority object then they are one step closer to finishing the base off.
But a huge PClaim would mean that players can come around and attack whenever but the protection on the base would not have to be compromised by defending each and every Authority object but instead being able to focus on an all around base defense that swarms around the PClaim to keep a player from townbelling the claim easily and removing it.

[jakhollin]

The best combination is to have a town claim and then expand your p claim to cover it. That way it prevents others from being able to break in without a waste claim and also allows for you to add defense ever where on the claim. Yes it is more expensive but if you start with the large p claim then work towards a bell it is not bad.

[Taipion]

The best combination is to have a town claim and then expand your p claim to cover it. That way it prevents others from being able to break in without a waste claim and also allows for you to add defense ever where on the claim. Yes it is more expensive but if you start with the large p claim then work towards a bell it is not bad.

That's what I preach all the time.

Also I am not 100% sure if the claim needs to touch the claimstone, the wiki might be wrong.

A good insurance to be not belled is sure having a big pclaim, no one wants to raise a bell to 40k authority or more just to then spend that much cash in exchange for some mediocre items.

[Father Latour]

Say, when you drop a TbF on somebody can they tell who placed it there? What village it's leaching silver from?

[Rubberduckbandit]

You can easily answer these questions by going out, and doing it yourself. Then again this game is now more of a town building simulator, than anything else atm.