I don't know how to wiki

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No, you really don't know how to wiki

Postby Eslake » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:31 am

TotalyMeow wrote:This was getting pretty off-topic so I've split it.

The problem seems to be that you don't know what a wiki is. A wiki's users contribute to the webpage, adding and editing content. Just because you need to apply to be a user doesn't make it not a wiki. It's also not part of Mortal Moments and we have no say over who is or isn't allowed to be a user.


Nice title - but to whom does it apply?

There is only one characteristic that distinguishes a website as a Wiki. It is contained in the definition - and you seem to be missing it.
Whether you go with the dictionary definition...
noun, (sometimes initial capital letter) a website that allows anyone to add, delete, or revise content by using a web browser.

or simply quote those who created it...
..."different in that anyone who finds the page can edit it, not just those who operate the page or specific members.


The core element is the same.
Anyone-Everyone. Not a limited group who have some special privilege. That makes it simply a fan site, info site, etc. It does not, in any way, make it a Wiki.
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Re: I don't know how to edit the OP either

Postby TotalyMeow » Wed Aug 19, 2015 4:52 am

Not sure what your point is. Do you think you're going to win something by being oddly particular about semantics? Just PM one of the admins to register as a user, if they'll take you. I wouldn't recommend you at this point. :/
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Re: I don't know how to edit the OP either

Postby Eslake » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:21 am

TotalyMeow wrote:Not sure what your point is. Do you think you're going to win something by being oddly particular about semantics? Just PM one of the admins to register as a user, if they'll take you. I wouldn't recommend you at this point. :/

I was not trying to "win" anything. I asked a very simple question on a separate thread - specific to the site in question.
You took it on yourself to split it using a rather insulting topic title based entirely on the false assumption that any information site is a wiki.

As to "semantics," that references a matter of degree, not a condition of states.
A wiki is defined by only ONE thing - the ability for anyone to edit the content.
That is it, plain and simple.
Calling a site that doesn't allow that a wiki is as wrong as calling a cat a fish or a bird a tea cup. It is not a matter of degree, it is simply wrong.
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Re: I don't know how to wiki

Postby Trismegistus » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:38 am

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Re: I don't know how to edit the OP either

Postby Dallane » Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:14 am

Eslake wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:Not sure what your point is. Do you think you're going to win something by being oddly particular about semantics? Just PM one of the admins to register as a user, if they'll take you. I wouldn't recommend you at this point. :/

I was not trying to "win" anything. I asked a very simple question on a separate thread - specific to the site in question.
You took it on yourself to split it using a rather insulting topic title based entirely on the false assumption that any information site is a wiki.

As to "semantics," that references a matter of degree, not a condition of states.
A wiki is defined by only ONE thing - the ability for anyone to edit the content.
That is it, plain and simple.
Calling a site that doesn't allow that a wiki is as wrong as calling a cat a fish or a bird a tea cup. It is not a matter of degree, it is simply wrong.


wi·ki
ˈwikē/
noun
a website that allows collaborative editing of its content and structure by its users.

Seems the wiki has both of these.....
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Re: I don't know how to edit the OP either

Postby Eslake » Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:28 pm

Dallane wrote:wi·ki
ˈwikē/
noun
a website that allows collaborative editing of its content and structure by its users.

Seems the wiki has both of these.....

Interstingly, I cannot find a dictionary that contains this version of the definition. Every one I have found so far includes the word "everyone" or "anyone" at some point.

But to make it simple, let me ask you this.
Assuming that definition were correct, What is the differentiation between a Wiki and any other given website?

By the definition you are both trying to apply, every business website on the internet is a wiki, as well as every website under .gov or .edu and the overwhelming majority of all others.
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Re: I don't know how to wiki

Postby lachlaan » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:25 pm

Troll is trollsy, there is no point to this topic as it does not concern the game anymore, just a 3rd party resource and even then not talking about the resource itself but arguing its name. Either blatant troll or very bored.

Also, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki

Check in dictionaries the definition of a term that has little to do with linguists and more to do with tech nerds.
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Re: I don't know how to wiki

Postby Amnezia88 » Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:37 pm

:shock: :? :roll:
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Re: I don't know how to edit the OP either

Postby Dallane » Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:38 pm

Eslake wrote:Interstingly, I cannot find a dictionary that contains this version of the definition.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+the+definition+of+a+wiki

I'm not sure why you are so mad but you need to get over it or update the other wiki that you don't need to get admin permission.
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Re: I don't know how to edit the OP either

Postby Eslake » Wed Aug 19, 2015 10:37 pm

Dallane wrote:
Eslake wrote:Interstingly, I cannot find a dictionary that contains this version of the definition.


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+the+definition+of+a+wiki

I'm not sure why you are so mad but you need to get over it or update the other wiki that you don't need to get admin permission.

Mad? Why ever would I be angry over something like this? No one should be taking these things so seriously - if anything I find it all to be quite humorous.

Humorous that such a simple, passing comment could be taken so far afield.

I'm curious why you call it a Wiki when you don't allow users to modify or contribute.
That is, after all, what makes a WIKI different from a generic information / fan site.


The comment wasn't about my own ability or inability to contribute to the site, but the use of the name "Wiki."
I think TotalyMeow is the only one who has understood that so far.

If it were about being able to edit it myself, I would either track down the operators or create my own site.
Honestly I will probably make one anyway - unless something takes me away from the game in the near future.
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