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Re: What's going on?

Postby Shrapnel » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:22 am

Brego wrote:
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as i said it's easy to remove fo example 2 levels ,but after if it left 1 level and WHAT to do?wait 24 hours until you can smoke hooka or sleep 8 hours again?and all this time you cannot do anything with tools because it is really unbalanced and easy to loose any tools with JUST 1 LEVEL of madness


The Hooka is the only limit, once per day, true. All you have to do is equip a teddybear and sleep for 8hours per level. Can you not do something else during that time? Perhaps play another character?

Once you get those levels back down to 0, just continue to sleep in a bed when ever your afk to keep the insanity down and never gain another level, simple.

I cant really say if the breaking tools is unbalanced, because ive never gotten to the point where i have psychotic episodes, its sounds worse than it probably is.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Brego » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:25 am

Shrapnel wrote:
Brego wrote:
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as i said it's easy to remove fo example 2 levels ,but after if it left 1 level and WHAT to do?wait 24 hours until you can smoke hooka or sleep 8 hours again?and all this time you cannot do anything with tools because it is really unbalanced and easy to loose any tools with JUST 1 LEVEL of madness


The Hooka is the only limit, once per day, true. All you have to do is equip a teddybear and sleep for 8hours per level. Can you not do something else during that time? Perhaps play another character?

Once you get those levels back down to 0, just continue to sleep in a bed when ever your afk to keep the insanity down and never gain another level, simple.


why should i play with alts ,i'm playing with honest way ,and If i heard one time ,dev's do not like botting or alt system but with such madness system as you said to play another chars, they are getting us to play with alts or bots LOL

do not teach me how to play ,if i posted for a couples times that i knw how to remove it ,here is a part of high chance to loose tools at 1 level of madness
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Shrapnel » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:49 am

Brego wrote:
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as i said it's easy to remove fo example 2 levels ,but after if it left 1 level and WHAT to do?wait 24 hours until you can smoke hooka or sleep 8 hours again?and all this time you cannot do anything with tools because it is really unbalanced and easy to loose any tools with JUST 1 LEVEL of madness


The Hooka is the only limit, once per day, true. All you have to do is equip a teddybear and sleep for 8hours per level. Can you not do something else during that time? Perhaps play another character?

Once you get those levels back down to 0, just continue to sleep in a bed when ever your afk to keep the insanity down and never gain another level, simple.


why should i play with alts ,i'm playing with honest way ,and If i heard one time ,dev's do not like botting or alt system but with such madness system as you said to play another chars, they are getting us to play with alts or bots LOL

do not teach me how to play ,if i posted for a couples times that i knw how to remove it ,here is a part of high chance to loose tools at 1 level of madness


Alright, your going to make it harder on yourself by playing that way, fine by me.

Your best option right now is to just sleep the levels off, sure your going to lose hours of play, fall behind in the race to get better stuff, but whos fault is that? you didn't read (or simply ignored) the notice that popped up telling you about madness when you gained that first level, if you want to re-read it, there should be a 'help' button near the Adventure menu where you can read the notice again.

Dont get upset in your own thread asking for help, because most people would just point an laugh if it wasn't against the rules.. Sorry for 'teaching you how to play' as you came here for help, and i was offering my viewpoints and methods of removing madness..
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Brego » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:54 am

Shrapnel wrote:
Dont get upset in your own thread asking for help, because most people would just point an laugh if it wasn't against the rules.. Sorry for 'teaching you how to play' as you came here for help, and i was offering my viewpoints and methods of removing madness..


i do not care what do you think about my own way of playing this game .
i didnt ASK FOR HELP ,I POSTED HERE TO SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN EXPLAIN ME THAT AT FIRST LEVEL OF MADNESS YOU ARE GETTING SAME HIGH CHANCE TO LOOSE ANY TOOLS, AS WITH HIGHER LEVELS OF MADNESS
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Shrapnel » Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:57 am

Brego wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:
Dont get upset in your own thread asking for help, because most people would just point an laugh if it wasn't against the rules.. Sorry for 'teaching you how to play' as you came here for help, and i was offering my viewpoints and methods of removing madness..


i didnt ASK FOR HELP ,I POSTED HERE TO SEE HOW PEOPLE CAN EXPLAIN ME THAT AT FIRST LEVEL OF MADNESS YOU ARE GETTING SAME HIGH CHANCE TO LOOSE ANY TOOLS


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This seems to say otherwise.

Regardless, iv said what i needed to, hopefully your issue gets resolved, one way or another.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Nagualcina » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:25 am

While i like madness/insanity mechanic some things gone a bit over the top on Popham.

I got madness by participating in events, not by do mad stuff myself, but again everyone who participate Marp events is little bit crazy so i can suck that. I got lvl2 madness with like level or 2 of insanity after Roulete event (which i wasn`t informed of) and how i suppose to get rid of it? It twisted my pickaxe after exactly 14 rocks in that state, which is bit overratted. There is no tobacco seeded at Popham, not that i`m aware of, and to make 250aff set without pickaxe is bit... hmm... but ok. Now its winter and no bears to kill for skin... but i dont mind all that, it`s just another challenge just i think it shouldn`t be developers induced.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Shrapnel » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:45 am

Nagualcina wrote:While i like madness/insanity mechanic some things gone a bit over the top on Popham.

I got madness by participating in events, not by do mad stuff myself, but again everyone who participate Marp events is little bit crazy so i can suck that. I got lvl2 madness with like level or 2 of insanity after Roulete event (which i wasn`t informed of) and how i suppose to get rid of it? It twisted my pickaxe after exactly 14 rocks in that state, which is bit overratted. There is no tobacco seeded at Popham, not that i`m aware of, and to make 250aff set without pickaxe is bit... hmm... but ok. Now its winter and no bears to kill for skin... but i dont mind all that, it`s just another challenge just i think it shouldn`t be developers induced.


It wasnt dev-induced per-say.. Getting KOd adds insanity, which could have gained you madness levels, although 2 from 1 KO sounds a bit far fetched.. possibly the trap chests add extra? who knows. Though it is a well known warning that participating in events can be very dangerous, Providence Sunday fight club has a decent chance of PKing when going against darkness creatures, and everyone knows that.

July 3rd events, 2 people died.. One during the Roulette, and one from smoking a Hooka, even though Hookas are supposed to be safe.. :shock:

Anyway, You have 2 madness levels, no pickaxe to get sterling geodes for an Affluence set, your now down to the option of making silver, buy the Teddybear from the NPC Stall, and sleeping the levels off.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby noogymonster » Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:03 am

All syndromes happen all too frequently, and they are incredibly easy to manage, making the whole thing just a constant annoyance rather than something actually crippling/challenging.

IMO the madness system could be changed so that once you go mad, you are affected with a singular syndrome, and it gets worse per madness level. The only way to cure that single syndrome is to totally cure your madness. Next time you go mad, you will have a chance for a different syndrome, possibly selected from table where losing tools syndrome is less/more common than say the slimed hides syndrome etc..
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Nagualcina » Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:13 am

Shrapnel wrote:It wasnt dev-induced per-say.. Getting KOd adds insanity, which could have gained you madness levels, although 2 from 1 KO sounds a bit far fetched.. possibly the trap chests add extra? who knows. Though it is a well known warning that participating in events can be very dangerous...


If dev spawn item that lead to obtain madness using regular mechanic during event then it is dev-induced. Traps give you instant blood-KO (presumably, not tested with high bile character) and some bleeding which ultimately lead to at least 2 chain KO`s. Offcourse participating in event is dangerous and we all know that, i just think that event leader should clearly explain that participating in roulette, unless won, lead to at least one level of madness, that wont be big of a deal on providence but on fresh server i think it is...

Shrapnel wrote:...buy the Teddybear from the NPC Stall


What NPC in Popham selling Teddybear exactly? I`m failing to find one.
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Re: What's going on?

Postby Shrapnel » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:33 am

Nagualcina wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:It wasnt dev-induced per-say.. Getting KOd adds insanity, which could have gained you madness levels, although 2 from 1 KO sounds a bit far fetched.. possibly the trap chests add extra? who knows. Though it is a well known warning that participating in events can be very dangerous...


If dev spawn item that lead to obtain madness using regular mechanic during event then it is dev-induced. Traps give you instant blood-KO (presumably, not tested with high bile character) and some bleeding which ultimately lead to at least 2 chain KO`s. Offcourse participating in event is dangerous and we all know that, i just think that event leader should clearly explain that participating in roulette, unless won, lead to at least one level of madness, that wont be big of a deal on providence but on fresh server i think it is...

Shrapnel wrote:...buy the Teddybear from the NPC Stall


What NPC in Popham selling Teddybear exactly? I`m failing to find one.


Its not an actual NPC Avatar, its the white-topped stalls, the one next to the stocks is the easiest to get to. Right click on it and select 'Buy' you can buy all sorts of useful items without the risk of trading with a player, the most recent addition was the Teddybear. Mainly because JC/Marp realized that on a fresh server, Madness would be a huge problem if there wasn't a easily accessible way to reduce madness. If you know what your doing, you could have 500 silver within a few hours on a new character, kill crickets/bunnies and sell them to the NPC Stall.

I will admit that the NPC Stall is a bit hard to find as a new player, 99% of the stuff in the cities are completely cosmetic, a new player will start trying to click on doors and give up after a while because nothing is happening. Maybe suggest a way to fix that in the Ideas board.

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I took the liberty to screenshot the one in Popham for you, and upon inspecting the buy list again, ive noticed that the Teddybear is no longer available, im not sure if its because i already bought one, or because there was a time limit of it being on the stall, but its not on there for me.
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