Criminal debuff

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Re: Criminal debuff

Postby pewpew » Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:57 am

I do understand general hate against stealing and killing, but i created this char as a throwaway just to try and understand how crime works, there isnt much info on wiki, there is nothing about bb drain. Just wanted to see how hard or easy is it to steal stuff.

staxjax wrote:No, you do take drain slowly...just 10 black bile is exetremely ******.


Oh sorry, totally misunderstood you there, when you did say that bb will be drained slowly, you meant that is for character with 14672 BB, like yourself. There is a thread in same section about guy asking why his fishing lures decay so fast, you could go and answer him, that they don`t decay at all, of course you would forget to mention your lvl 99 in frontier&wilderness.

harflimon wrote:I wasn't saying it was technically hard, I was saying it's ***** ridiculous that someone would raise their proficiency that high with 10BB. Do you know how slow learning is with that amount of BB?? Guy must have spent hours worth of time watching a blue line slowing raise.


So according to you i should have raised all biles to at least 100 before learning larceny? Let`s see grinding all the food,preparing it and then gluttoning everything, would have taken me a lot longer than i spent on this char, which was 10-12 hours. I wanted to spend as little silver as i could on this throw away char. Why would i watch blue line sloooooowly raising, when my keyboard is equipped with 2 wonderful buttons(alt&tab), which let me do other things while playing Salem.

Anyways now i just need to find out how much is exact drain and how much opening containers drain so i can add this info to wiki and move on.
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Re: Criminal debuff

Postby staxjax » Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:56 am

lol, I didn't answer that guy about fishing lures decaying because it is much more complicated than him or anybody in that thread thinks it is. I don't even fish because I don't need anything from fishing except for bladders, which I have already stockpiled for future industries...otherwise fishing sucks.

As for testing the crime mechanics, how the ***** can you even do any accurate testing with 10 black bile. Out of all the humours black bile is the easiest to raise with cabbage cakes. If you really want to test the black skills and obtain accurate information spam about 50 cabbage cakes and glutton them. It'd be alot better than barely testing **** and adding even more garbage to the wiki than what is already there.
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Re: Criminal debuff

Postby pewpew » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:17 am

I did write that "You could go and answer...", reading comprehension at its best. There is no information anywhere about bb drain, how im supposed to know to bloat up bb before i go and test crime, if i don`t know that there is bb drain. Do i need to raise foretelling&prophesy proficiency before? You are saying that wiki is full of garbage, but yet you are giving half-assed answers in help section. Go and and fix it info on wiki instead of complaining, so you wouldn`t need to answer "stupid" questions in help sections, if you hate it so much.
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Re: Criminal debuff

Postby staxjax » Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:21 am

I don't hate it...where did you read that I dislike answering questions (but seriously, you could have searched for 'KO claim' and found the answer yourself). I don't like the wiki because anybody can join and change ****, or in your case, add half-assed information without thoroughly testing it. If anybody asks questions in the Help! subforums, and they will recieve the correct answer to their question.
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Re: Criminal debuff

Postby harflimon » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:02 pm

pewpew wrote:So according to you i should have raised all biles to at least 100 before learning larceny? Let`s see grinding all the food,preparing it and then gluttoning everything, would have taken me a lot longer than i spent on this char, which was 10-12 hours. I wanted to spend as little silver as i could on this throw away char. Why would i watch blue line sloooooowly raising, when my keyboard is equipped with 2 wonderful buttons(alt&tab), which let me do other things while playing Salem.


I got my BB to 15 on some blackberries.... Also you can buy oatmeal crackers cheap as **** in town at a bunch of the player-owned shops. Plenty of alternatives to waiting 10-12 hours even if you were alt-tabbing. But I guess when you've got tons of free time whatever. Masturbation is a great distraction.
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Re: Criminal debuff

Postby pewpew » Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:14 pm

harflimon wrote:
pewpew wrote:So according to you i should have raised all biles to at least 100 before learning larceny? Let`s see grinding all the food,preparing it and then gluttoning everything, would have taken me a lot longer than i spent on this char, which was 10-12 hours. I wanted to spend as little silver as i could on this throw away char. Why would i watch blue line sloooooowly raising, when my keyboard is equipped with 2 wonderful buttons(alt&tab), which let me do other things while playing Salem.


I got my BB to 15 on some blackberries.... Also you can buy oatmeal crackers cheap as **** in town at a bunch of the player-owned shops. Plenty of alternatives to waiting 10-12 hours even if you were alt-tabbing. But I guess when you've got tons of free time whatever. Masturbation is a great distraction.


Seriously? While you are gathering blackberries and farm and forage for food, i can just work or do whatever i want(like masturbating, as you pointed out), while alt tabbing. And in the end you end up wasting much more time, to get to same proficiency levels. Oh and while you are raising proficiency you can`t glutton that means, that you need to haul and storage all the food to your claim, which again prolongs time until you get to needed prof levels. Flawed logic is flawed.
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