Salem

Hello.

I went on the internet and found this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s&feature=youtu.be

I think everyone should watch this movie. if you don't believe it, then have a look at the facts. http://www.thrivemovement.com/If you still don't believe it, then it's to bad.

As much as ive been denying myself to believe in this, after watching this movie, it did confirm alot of stuff i already knew and presented me with some other stuff i hadn't even thought off yet.

Call me crazy or insane, or whatever you want but going from what state the world is in right now, and summing up my personal experiences in how things are handled and my knowhow in different fields of science i must say i agree with this movie.

Discuss or flame or whatever. Just watch the movie that's all i ask.

-Kruger

http://transitionculture.org/2012/01/09 ... t-avoided/

It's always a good idea to take the critics into account with stuff like this.

Yes we live in a world governed by a corrupt and sometimes injust system. It's still doing a lot better than anything we have come up with so far, and I strongly disagree that there is inherant good within every man. In reality it is likely exactly the opposite, we are all inherantly bad...

There are no green lizardmen heading some kind of world conspiracy and keeping our immortality from us. We are quite capable of creating our own ****** situation, in which the powerful take advantage of the weak.

I also disapprove of the idea that everyone only needs to be shown the way, that somehow you can force everyone to be a wishy-washy touchy-feely hippy who grows their own food and spends most of their time in the garden. If you want you can make that life for yourself. There's no need to push that lifestyle upon others, it's not for everyone. You only need to immerse yourself in the dominant social paradigm to a level you are comfortable with.

PS. He sounds like a ***** lunatic when he talks about perpetual energy machines but doesn't have a working example...

All these type of garbage "movements" have the exact same thing in common. Check the related vids: ghost, aliens, chem trails, ancient aliens, instert other tinfoil hat subject.

I do however really enjoy watching this stuff. Just hard to take serious when its grouped into the tin foil hat section.

Yep i agree with the above posters. Watched it a while ago and was entertained, it did promote some good things but as usual was full of crazy, and retarded overall.

OP a word of advice, when 'checking the facts' relevant to a video like this, the producer's website is not the place to look.

Jalpha wrote:PS. He sounds like a ***** lunatic when he talks about perpetual energy machines but doesn't have a working example...

*ROFLMAO* ...ok, THIS explains everything.

Jalpha wrote:Yes we live in a world governed by a corrupt and sometimes injust system. It's still doing a lot better than anything we have come up with so far, and I strongly disagree that there is inherant good within every man. In reality it is likely exactly the opposite, we are all inherantly bad...

Well if this "goverment good" is the only good we ever felt and knew, doesn't that make us kind of narrowsighted and naive. Have we even looked at the other side of the coin? Does that mean that we should go along with this? i think not. (presumably if one thinks it is plausible to think there is a agenda like this from the old banking families). Also coming up with better ideas that doesn't benefit the big corps, usually are shot down anyways. It's always all about the money. I do know that the "natural remedies plants" ban law was real, and it was voted for in EU, i must say that i don't know what happened to it. It was in the newspaper a couple of years ago.

I do believe that there is good within every person, the level of it might varie alot but it's there, and it can grow. When taking society into consideration, media tells us what we should think, act and look like. I think they are making all of us unhealthy mentally.

Jalpha wrote:PS. He sounds like a ***** lunatic when he talks about perpetual energy machines but doesn't have a working example...

There should be atleast some good "overunity" vids on youtube when using the bedini model. There are some other strange stuff aswell. However the last time i was browsing for them was back in 2010 when i was intrested in this stuff myself. I still am. I was actually gonna try build one myself, bought some maths for it but i never started to actually build it. (my plan is not based upon the bedini model).

Tamasin wrote:OP a word of advice, when 'checking the facts' relevant to a video like this, the producer's website is not the place to look.

Anything in particular that you or the rest who watched it so far, really can't agree or believe, that kind of makes the rest of it more unbelievable? please do ask, maybe i can explain.

-Kruger

you are sounding like the tin foil hats in the vid now.

they had david icke in it. david icke. there is no need for any discussion, even this one this simple fact is enough proof that the documentary is some serious tin foil hat stuff which no sensible person would take seriously.

Syndarn wrote:I do believe that there is good within every person, the level of it might varie alot but it's there, and it can grow. When taking society into consideration, media tells us what we should think, act and look like. I think they are making all of us unhealthy mentally.

Matters of faith are just opinions, but I will throw this one out.

Try to think what good and evil is first. Afterall, we are being made out of flash, and Good is a product of our psyhology. Truth is, good doesn't really exist, and nor does evil, as they actually are way for humans to categorize those who abide or not to the actual principles of the society. For example, in the animal kingdom such comparisons doesn't exist, as animals cannot rationalize their actions. Also, evil doings like killing, robbing or rapping etc weren't always percieved like this, but sometimes even as holy acts. Example, Egyptians wich followed the cult of the dead were content when someone was killed, and it actually was a blessing. Animist tribes often offered human tributes to their gods, and many other cultures considered "rapping" a good act.(this was before christianism) What i'm trying to say, is that good and evils are simply 2 extremes, wich took long before they took this final shape. They are simply some rules that evolve with the society, in order too keep violence and distruction away, wich would otherwise counter the ultimate human goal, to continually evolve, learn, and survive.

TCchris wrote: They are simply some rules that evolve with the society, in order too keep violence and distruction away, wich would otherwise counter the ultimate human goal, to continually evolve, learn, and survive.

Just a few issues with that phrase:

The ultimate human goal? Ask 10 different people and you'll get 10 different answers. If, as you say, we are simply flesh and blood organisms then our ultimate goal is to eat, ***** and make more of ourselves. Everything else is philosophy and rationalisation, which brings us back at the point where we, as a species, can't agree what our goal is.

You also say that violence and destruction are to be kept away in order for society to evolve. Ironically, war and violence have been the biggest factors driving our technological evolution forward.

I'll skip the rest of the post to avoid making a giant wall of text which can be summarized as "You're wrong." .