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Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:21 am
by sefer
Just returned to see how the game has been doing, Ive been away for hmm... almost 2 years now. All the wonderful hype and excitment I once saw on the forums, all the mystery and people begging to be told of how to become a witch and other stuff... Now all I see is spam and the constant "is this game dieing?" "The game is dying" "wipe wipe wipe" "blahblahblah chief"

I was personally very excited to come back to salem, since all my friends quit in beta I quit too, but decided that the game would now be wonderful and interesting, and that I could make it on my own.. Unfortunately I checked the forums first. And the words of others have greatly turned me off, and this is from someone who greatly enjoyed the game in the past.. What do you think new players would do if they read all this crap?

Now, about plymouth.... Jorb, I would like your opinion on that server, and if you have any plans to do anything about its current "condition". A hostile clan taking over an entire server? Really? I coulda sworn this thing was impossible since, you know... Bounty hunters. That was suppose to be the big scary thing that stops hostile people from taking over. Anytime anything bad happened, it was supposed to leave scents and what not allowing other players to follow them and execute the person even if hes offline, from what I hear the entire clan do messed up crap, the population of the server is drastically small compared to the already small populations on the other servers... So what happened? Was it because everyone left the server that mm tribe was able to take over fully? And what things do you plan to implement to fix this problem? Seeing as now their apparently so godlike that, as the chief claims, "I'm pretty sure a 700 humour character would run out of YB before breaking through a Brave's blood." and since they dominate the entire server, I highly doubt anyone would be able to get even that high before dieing, and even then... as the chief claims... just ONE brave. Implying all the braves and probably everyone above their rank, are as strong or stronger.

So Jorb, whats to stop this from happening on the other servers? You can't possibly expect Salem to live if players can completely take over the server and destroy every single new person that joins to where they have no chances at all. Honestly, it seems like you made old players too freaking powerful, like there needs to be a limit to where new players can compete against older players. Like, why are players able to become gods from eating? Why are they able to become gods at all? Buildings and advances in science keep us safer, make us more dangerous, but we should still be vulnerable to any moron with a rock or pointy stick. Unless you have armor! But then your vulnerable to things that can pierce armor, like swords... Or maces, well you get what im saying...

It was a good idea, but obviously it didn't work out right... Now that theres no pressure jorb, take a step back, and look at plymouth as an example of what went wrong and why, and then find a way to prevent things from becoming that way... as it is now, the only way to fix plymouth, is by wiping it completely, AFTER implementing new measures to ensure Plymouth never happens again.

Oh and still reply, because I want to know where you stand on this, as there indeed are rumors that you like and endorse the Chief and all that he is doing.. Which from what we are seeing, is detering fresh blood and showing everyone else that 1 powerful clan of people can completely destroy the game by taking over the server their on. (face it, if the powerful clan in the other servers take over those, there would be no salem, no new people, meaning no new income sources for your game.)

Also would be nice to hear what you plan to do about players becoming godlike because of humours. Personally I think you should take a more realistic route by capping blood at a low enough amount, and using advanced equipment as the primary means for defense instead of "oh look, i can become fat as a garbage truck and somehow magically survive being stabbed a million times"

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:28 am
by jwhitehorn
I am not sure where you are getting your information but you are horribly wrong.

First of all only criminals are killed on plymouth. Every player has the opportunity to become a member of the society by following these rules:

MM Tribe Treaty

The Great Spirit knows that a wipe would accomplish nothing. The Tribe would re-take the server within a month and the remainder of the "Veteran" players would simply quit due to all the time they lost in their characters from a wipe. If you want to change the status quo then get some friends, grow some balls, and come @ us bro!

If not. Well.... Keep making these threads and see where that gets you. It is not the Tribe's fault that the majority of players were here to commit crimes and be criminals. The result of the low population is the lack of content updates. Once people ran out of content they started committing crimes. Once they committed crimes we summon killed them all. End of Story.

P.S. It is no longer Plymouth. The Tribe now owns all three servers. We are just choosing how to interact with the two lesser-servers a bit more carefully as they are the remainder of our play things.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:35 am
by Thor
I have no idea why you want Jorb to do something about this since it's what Salem is about.
Players sculpt the land and write the story.. If you aren't pleased with Plymouth you can always choose another server.

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:39 am
by jwhitehorn
Thor wrote:I have no idea why you want Jorb to do something about this since it's what Salem is about.
Players sculpt the land and write the story.. If you aren't pleased with Plymouth you can always choose another server.


Well Said. The title for Plymouth's Story you ask?

Plymouth: An Opportunity for so Many. But Realized by So Few.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:43 am
by sefer
yea yea, stop trolling man, you started killing criminals, but now you consider criminals to be anyone who doesn't pay you, infact its one of your stupid rules that all your people have to destroy everything that doesn't belong to anyone not paying you, which destroying property that isn't yours, IS a crime. Or atleast it should be, considering it was back then.

Which makes you guys A hostile clan that completely dominated the server, and because of the lousy humour system no one can "come at u bro" because you can easily destroy them before they can ever get powerful enough to even kill a "brave". So yes, a wipe IS needed, especially for plymouth, and changes need to be made to ensure you, nor any other group, can completely dominate a server, one way would be by limiting blood, so that you cannot make gods by eating a million things.

And to thor: Stop trying to defend a broken system, i'm using plymouth as an example of the brokeness of the humours. Because older players can become godlike by eatting, a group of them can completely take over a server, like what was done to plymouth, in other words, if a large clan on the other two servers did what mm tribe did, there would no longer be a game to play, it would be completely dominated by trolls who kill every new person that joins before they can even try to fight back.

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:49 am
by jwhitehorn
sefer wrote:yea yea, stop trolling man, you started killing criminals, but now you consider criminals to be anyone who doesn't pay you, infact its one of your stupid rules that all your people have to destroy everything that doesn't belong to anyone not paying you, which destroying property that isn't yours, IS a crime. Or atleast it should be, considering it was back then.

Which makes you guys A hostile clan that completely dominated the server, and because of the lousy humour system no one can "come at u bro" because you can easily destroy them before they can ever get powerful enough to even kill a "brave". So yes, a wipe IS needed, especially for plymouth, and changes need to be made to ensure you, nor any other group, can completely dominate a server, one way would be by limiting blood, so that you cannot make gods by eating a million things.

And to thor: Stop trying to defend a broken system, i'm using plymouth as an example of the brokeness of the humours. Because older players can become godlike by eatting, a group of them can completely take over a server, like what was done to plymouth, in other words, if a large clan on the other two servers did what mm tribe did, there would no longer be a game to play, it would be completely dominated by trolls who kill every new person that joins before they can even try to fight back.


The Ignorance is strong with this one.

Spoiler Alert

If you cap my blood I'll just make hundreds of Chief's @ the cap


Basically what you are saying is you don't have enough friends, time, or dedication to do anything about the status quo so you are begging the game developer to save your sorry ass. Unfortunately, that is a story you'll have to write somewhere else. How about:

Sefer: The Saga of a man seeking equality for the less talented gamer.

Plenty of games and developers have and will bend over for the profits associated with catering to your kind. Thank god these dev's arn't part of that crowd.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:54 am
by sefer
jwhitehorn wrote:
sefer wrote:yea yea, stop trolling man, you started killing criminals, but now you consider criminals to be anyone who doesn't pay you, infact its one of your stupid rules that all your people have to destroy everything that doesn't belong to anyone not paying you, which destroying property that isn't yours, IS a crime. Or atleast it should be, considering it was back then.

Which makes you guys A hostile clan that completely dominated the server, and because of the lousy humour system no one can "come at u bro" because you can easily destroy them before they can ever get powerful enough to even kill a "brave". So yes, a wipe IS needed, especially for plymouth, and changes need to be made to ensure you, nor any other group, can completely dominate a server, one way would be by limiting blood, so that you cannot make gods by eating a million things.

And to thor: Stop trying to defend a broken system, i'm using plymouth as an example of the brokeness of the humours. Because older players can become godlike by eatting, a group of them can completely take over a server, like what was done to plymouth, in other words, if a large clan on the other two servers did what mm tribe did, there would no longer be a game to play, it would be completely dominated by trolls who kill every new person that joins before they can even try to fight back.


The Ignorance is strong with this one.

Spoiler Alert

If you cap my blood I'll just make hundreds of Chief's @ the cap


Basically what you are saying is you don't have enough friends, time, or dedication to do anything about the status quo so you are begging the game developer to save your sorry ass. Unfortunately, that is a story you'll have to write somewhere else. How about:

Sefer: The Saga of a man seeking equality for the less talented gamer.

Plenty of games and developers have and will bend over for the profits associated with catering to your kind. Thank god these dev's arn't part of that crowd.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe


No, what I am saying is that there isn't a chance for anyone WITH dedication, time, and friends, to do anything about you fools. It takes FAR too long to get up to the humours you fools have. Why does it take far too long? BECAUSE EVERYONE WOULD BE DEAD BEFORE THEY COULD GET THAT HIGH. And THAT is why its a broken system, you managed to kill off the other oldbies, and now NO ONE can stand against you, whether it was 1 or 100 it doesn't matter, you would still kill them all, HELL in a fight 1 oldbie vs 100 noobs, YOU WOULD KILL THEM ALL. Thats how unfair the humour system is currently, THATS why it needs changing and capping because you have become a unrealistic GOD.

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:58 am
by Darwoth
if you don't like it form your own group to challenge them and stfu.

takes a week to produce the materials for a base strong enough to keep out any group of titans so long as it is defended.

the stat whine is real tired at this point to, it takes abouy a month to powergame a titan on 10 - 15% crops which are common on all three servers. there is nothing stopping you and 5 of your friends from doing so on any server you choose and being able to defend yourselves just fine.

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:02 am
by sefer
Darwoth wrote:if you don't like it form your own group to challenge them and stfu.


I love how no one knows how to read. I just told you, multiple times, that even if I gathered 100 people, each one would die before they could get enough humour to kill even 1 of them. They completely dominate the server, and destroy and kill everyone who isn't with them, hell someone mentioned a thread involving 200+ noob kills? Not sure if that was about him but I bet it was... that or you, as I have read your pretty much the second most trolling/evil person in the game.

Re: Jorb, whats up with plymouth?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:03 am
by Darwoth
yeah and i have told idiots like you that know jack **** about the game a lot more than 100 times that you are wrong.