Topia Online

[joshrmt]

Man, I don't know where all the flaming / immature behavior is coming from. It's just a game, if you don't like it, nobody is making you play it.

Anyway, here's our brand new video, just launched tonight, explains all aspects of the game in great depth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x11-NQgp ... e=youtu.be

[darnokpl]

I like it, look at ~5 minutes "Griefing sucks"

[Munjarak]

I know I can't sit here and 'prove it to you', but Topia Online is not going to turn into a PvP hellhole in the traditional sense.

Yes, monsters will roam free and kill people. They will invade cities and conquer regions. There will be factions of players that also have agendas for world conquest.
However, combat with another player is dangerous. Each side will take a risk in losing their work. Also, there is little to be gained from killing another player aside from political agenda. Therefore, many people will fight for a cause rather than random killing. In other online games, 'PK'ers are often 'super badass' gods roaming the earth, able to kill people with little effort. In Topia Online, the 'power gap' is much more narrow, and the risk/reward for attacking another player is high risk, low reward unless they are a strategic target.

but you forget that ppl in mmos like to kill for the act itself...not what they gain by it..it is the whole essence of pvp

[Dallane]

but you forget that ppl in mmos like to kill for the act itself...not what they gain by it..it is the whole essence of pvp

Letting someone go instead of killing them gets you influence. They hope that will work but it wont

[_Gunnar]

but you forget that ppl in mmos like to kill for the act itself...not what they gain by it..it is the whole essence of pvp

Letting someone go instead of killing them gets you influence. They hope that will work but it wont

That sounds v abuseable.

[joshrmt]

There is no way to gain influence from attacking someone unless you convince them that you will kill them if they do not give you their influence.

[Dallane]

There is no way to gain influence from attacking someone unless you convince them that you will kill them if they do not give you their influence.

ah i see. going with the eve pirating system lol. sounds fun

[TeckXKnight]

So the main fault that can be found is that if everyone decides to be outright malicious then the game isn't prone to working well. I'd suggest just not being malevolent then but that sentiment seems to be a dead concept.

[dageir]

I guess playing as a benevolent being would give more rewards since crafting and such is limited to humanoid creatures. I dont think spiders can do trades and gather stuff?

[Sevenless]

So the main fault that can be found is that if everyone decides to be outright malicious then the game isn't prone to working well. I'd suggest just not being malevolent then but that sentiment seems to be a dead concept.

Not to be cynical or anything, but isn't that exactly what happened with Salem?

If you give someone the ability to permakill other players, although it is a very good potential tool for the discouragement of pvp, that's not what happens. It is a far more powerful tool in the hands of griefers, who by and large don't *care* if they lose stuff, so long as other people suffer while they do it. Giving an intentional outlet through monsters and a choice between thieving or murdering will help alleviate those who aren't there purely to grief.

I've seen it happen too many times with HnH and Salem to think anything else is going to happen. Skill based combat (if that's the system) will just make the situation worse. They'd actually be better off with 0 skill combat for the protection of the non-hardcore pvpers.

As for "all the flaming" it's just chief. He likes attention. I expect his warpath will involve Topia Online as well if the game proves interesting enough.


Edit: You know, your best defense against griefing is a feature you've never mentioned to us. The whole "Influence is only generated through player/player interaction". Well, that + the baseline/hour generation. Point being a social currency is far more able to hinder griefers than anything you've mentioned because people can simply choose to not fund them. It's a very hands off form of PvP that carebears will probably love.