an ebola reminder

[Syndarn]

Vaccines leaving natural healing out of equation? Do you know how vaccines work? It's "unarmed" or "dead" versions of diseases (viruses / bacteria) so that your "natural healing" can "naturally cope" with them without getting killed by them first.

Yes, you inject antibodies into the bloodstream of a person. While it is a very unnatural way of attempting to heal yourself of a illness, as a side effect it will also attack good bacteria in your body and ***** you up, Not only will the antibody be recognized as a foreign substance and put your immune system under very hard stress for a time, thus weakening you. Vaccines never work with the immune system, they work against it, in the end if the vaccination is successful a balance is achieved. Also vaccines are assumed to help the same way on every person even though we are all different in so many ways. As a metaphor, It's like giving 30 cm shoes to a 5 year old and expecting him to be able to walk with them. Everyone knows it doesn't work like that.

If anyone thinks that injecting foreign antibodies in your bloodstream is welcomed by your immune system.. think again.

[Procne]

Vaccines leaving natural healing out of equation? Do you know how vaccines work? It's "unarmed" or "dead" versions of diseases (viruses / bacteria) so that your "natural healing" can "naturally cope" with them without getting killed by them first.

Yes, you inject antibodies into the bloodstream of a person. While it is a very unnatural way of attempting to heal yourself of a illness, as a side effect it will also attack good bacteria in your body and ***** you up, Not only will the antibody be recognized as a foreign substance and put your immune system under very hard stress for a time, thus weakening you. Vaccines never work with the immune system, they work against it, in the end if the vaccination is successful a balance is achieved. Also vaccines are assumed to help the same way on every person even though we are all different in so many ways. As a metaphor, It's like giving 30 cm shoes to a 5 year old and expecting him to be able to walk with them. Everyone knows it doesn't work like that.

If anyone thinks that injecting foreign antibodies in your bloodstream is welcomed by your immune system.. think again.

I'm not saying it's welcome by immune system (nor it should be) or that vaccines should work with it. That's the whole point - vaccines are enemies, training dummies to the immune system. Yes, they may make your body weaker and more prone to other diseases for a short time. But I prefer this way of "teaching" my immune system than going through the illness, as you propose. Besides, vaccines aren't supposed to heal. They are supposed to make you immune.
Also, yes, we are all different, but it's about gaining immunity against a threat that is the same to everyone.

[Lusewing]

Vaccines leaving natural healing out of equation? Do you know how vaccines work? It's "unarmed" or "dead" versions of diseases (viruses / bacteria) so that your "natural healing" can "naturally cope" with them without getting killed by them first.

Yes, you inject antibodies into the bloodstream of a person. While it is a very unnatural way of attempting to heal yourself of a illness, as a side effect it will also attack good bacteria in your body and ***** you up, Not only will the antibody be recognized as a foreign substance and put your immune system under very hard stress for a time, thus weakening you. Vaccines never work with the immune system, they work against it, in the end if the vaccination is successful a balance is achieved. Also vaccines are assumed to help the same way on every person even though we are all different in so many ways. As a metaphor, It's like giving 30 cm shoes to a 5 year old and expecting him to be able to walk with them. Everyone knows it doesn't work like that.

If anyone thinks that injecting foreign antibodies in your bloodstream is welcomed by your immune system.. think again.

Im sorry but I think you have your facts wrong. Antibodies are produced by your own body to deal with viruses - diffrent antibodies are needed for diffrent viruses - and because viruses can evolve and adapt so to must our immune system.
A Vaccine is an injection of either partal/weakend or dead VIRUS, think of it like a training simulation for your immune system. The vaccine gives your body a chance to figure out and make the correct antibodies needed to brake down and distroy the virus and the 'code' for these antibodies are then stored in your bone marrow for future use if the same or simmler virus is encountered again.

[Inotdead]

In spiritual circles the argument on that is: That when polio vaccine was first introduced people actually got more resistant naturally to the illness at the same time, so it is debated that the vaccine had none or very little effect in the end. So whet ever it really worked or not is not really proven on both perspectives together. We just have the polio one.

So if you say that we really need vaccines without proving that our bodies can naturally cope with it. That's leaving our natural healing out of the equation. Thus your argument is incomplete. Stale mate.
I can't prove my point, and you can't prove yours. I will stick to speak against vaccines.

How convenient. And what a sad fortune, that people in Pakistan, Nigeria and Afghanistan don't have the same immunity-building capacities our bodies have.
You know what, I totally agree with you, people like you should firmly follow their beliefs, so under no circumstance should you let vaccinate your children or dear ones.

Yes, you inject antibodies into the bloodstream of a person. While it is a very unnatural way of attempting to heal yourself of a illness...

Also that's actually completely wrong, and vaccination has absolutely nothing to do with "injecting antibodies", but that shouldn't stop you! Stay strong!

[Syndarn]

Still it us a unnatural way. People are supposed to come in contact with the virus by it being spread in the air, and then go to natural way after that. Not being thrown straight into the bloodstream.
I understand why we want to inject it. (so it's controlled) and all the other facts and reasons. But in the end i still think doing it the natural way is better.

So when virus and diseases are becoming more complex. Let's say that you vaccine 100 people. 15 or more of them get so sick that they become unable to work or function, or die. Now how is that a good thing? If you just let them get the disease the natural way they would have had in my opinion a better chance of surviving. (EDIT: Assuming that they are in a good enough condition to fight the disease in the first place.) So how many shall be sacrificed for "the greater good"?

I have family members and friends that have gotten sick from vaccines, so excuse me if id rather not use a vaccine.

[Kaios]

I have family members and friends that have gotten sick from vaccines, so excuse me if id rather not use a vaccine.

I don't blame you for the way you feel towards vaccines. You've got many people paranoid about ebola when they really shouldn't be and of course they are going to want to get the vaccine, yet how many of those people get the flu shot? More people die from the flu and I'm pretty sure flu season is also upon us.

It sounds like some of you in this thread were also implying ebola is an airborne virus... it's not.

[Potjeh]

Which FDA approved vaccine has a 15% complications rate?

Also, setting broken bones is unnatural. You should let them heal by themselves. Without any unnatural painkillers, of course.

[Lusewing]

and dont forget this unatural way we are currently talking to one another from all around the world, or all the unatural food we are eating that most of us has neither grown, gathered of hunted.

[Cheena]

Well at least he's not (yet) saying that vaccines are responsible for autism -_-

[Syndarn]

It sounds like some of you in this thread were also implying ebola is an airborne virus... it's not.

It's not as far as i know.

Do you guys who speak for vaccines even read the material that is against it? here is a perfectly good example article.
http://preventdisease.com/news/14/061714_CDC-Vaccine-Safety-Research-Exposed-Flawed-Falsified.shtml

Let me give you some quick quotes from that.

"165 Studies Have Found Thimerosal to be Harmful"
"What most people do not realize is although the FDA gave a two year deadline to remove thimerosal from vaccines after the deadly neurotoxin was banned in 1999, they continue to appear in vaccine formulations to this day. "

Now read the rest if you are interested.

Now a follow up question: If FDA is corrupt and feeding you *****. What else could be wrong?