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Re: Another One

Postby Inotdead » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:02 pm

Paradoxyc wrote:Not for us to say that they are not allowed here


How is this true? You have a live example in EU, where, like was said, the uncontrolled influx of refugees led to increased crime rates and would likely soon lead to increased tax rates, not to mention blatant terrorism.
Do you also refuse vaccines because may be just this one time the disease virus wouldn't be harmful?
Claeyt wrote: I'm not saying it's right or justified that they steal or sell drugs or murder cops I'm saying that that's exactly what you would do if you were poor and desperate and Black.
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Re: Another One

Postby Paradoxyc » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:04 pm

Darwoth wrote:
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Whatever you are I don't think you stand for what America was founded upon.
Just like Jon Stewart said, "You want your country back - but it isn't your country, it isn't anyone's country"


yeah your right, it must be the citizens of syria's country thankfully i am not "new york race" however so it is unlikely that they will be flying jetliners into my living room.


Our past generations were immigrants at one point, leaving their country for one reason or the other. KKK killed a bunch of black people 50-60 years ago, does that mean we should exile all white people from America?
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Re: Another One

Postby Paradoxyc » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:06 pm

Inotdead wrote:
Paradoxyc wrote:Not for us to say that they are not allowed here


How is this true? You have a live example in EU, where, like was said, the uncontrolled influx of refugees led to increased crime rates and would likely soon lead to increased tax rates, not to mention blatant terrorism.
Do you also refuse vaccines because may be just this one time the disease virus wouldn't be harmful?


It is in our constitution. If the person requesting to live here has no criminal history, and has a religion (no matter what that religion may be according to Amendment 1), why should they not be allowed here? Sure some may be prejudiced against them but we are not to say they don't even have a chance
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Re: Another One

Postby Darwoth » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:08 pm

Paradoxyc wrote:
Our past generations were immigrants at one point, leaving their country for one reason or the other. KKK killed a bunch of black people 50-60 years ago, does that mean we should exile all white people from America?


past generations immigrated into a fledgling country, built it together and created a new "american" culture that melted together over 200 years. several hundred thousand syrians that subscribe to a religion, culture and and belief system which is in total opposition to that culture being **** out into the middle of it this late in the game is not remotely the same thing.
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Re: Another One

Postby Inotdead » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:09 pm

Paradoxyc wrote:Our past generations were immigrants at one point, leaving their country for one reason or the other. KKK killed a bunch of black people 50-60 years ago, does that mean we should exile all white people from America?


Black people had no means to prevent it. You have. You mean you should let history repeat itself and open up for more violence and segregation just for the sake of what exactly?
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Re: Another One

Postby Paradoxyc » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:10 pm

Darwoth wrote:
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Our past generations were immigrants at one point, leaving their country for one reason or the other. KKK killed a bunch of black people 50-60 years ago, does that mean we should exile all white people from America?


past generations immigrated into a fledgling country, built it together and created a new "american" culture that melted together over 200 years. several hundred thousand syrians that subscribe to a religion, culture and and belief system which is in total opposition to that culture being **** out into the middle of it this late in the game is not remotely the same thing.


It doesn't matter how they get here. America is built on the principles of welcoming all peaceful people and I stand by my belief that everyone is INNOCENT before proven guilty.

Also, if you must know, my father worked at the World Trade Center and was home on 9/11 (off for the day)
My disgust is directed towards terrorists, not Muslims.
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Re: Another One

Postby Darwoth » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:12 pm

unfortunately for your umpteenth times regurgitated argument we are not talking about peaceful people that wish to become americans, but the opposite in all regards.
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Re: Another One

Postby Paradoxyc » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:13 pm

Darwoth wrote:unfortunately for your umpteenth times regurgitated argument we are not talking about peaceful people that wish to become americans, but the opposite in all regards.


Prove to me that every single Syrian muslim refugee is not peaceful?
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Re: Another One

Postby Darwoth » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:15 pm

pretty sure the news and the current state of syria makes a good case for that already, you also ignored the "become americans" part
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Re: Another One

Postby Paradoxyc » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:18 pm

Darwoth wrote:pretty sure the news and the current state of syria makes a good case for that already, you also ignored the "become americans" part


If they do not want to become Americans that does not mean we should not allow them to be here, unless we can prove they have malicious intent
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