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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby rustles » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:51 am

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The amount of butthurt I saw the day after the vote was more than anything I've seen before. I hear Finland wants to leave next.

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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby Thor » Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:46 am

rustles wrote:I hear Finland wants to leave next.

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Sauce!?!?! Been drunk all weekend so out of the loop
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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby Flame » Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:07 am

the common man in this country clearly knows better than pretty much ALL the worlds foremost experts on politics and economy


If you're talking about the "experts" that pop up in the news in these situations, those aren't experts. Those are people payed by the market crew.

If you're talking about those experts that have been around for the last 50 years, publishing books and debating about the EU and Globalization, you should check the opinion of the ones that publish for boring, economic news that no common man usually read. The news that our politicians reads, so probably the more accurated ones.

I don't know which experts you're talking about. I just hope you're not talking of the news of these days.
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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby Judaism » Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:36 am

TotalyMeow wrote:I don't know why people keep talking like ALL of Scotland voted in. It was 60/40. I'm sure plenty of the people in Scotland are happy about this and quite possibly celebrating along with other parts of the UK. There were celebrations being televised on the news earlier.


You might say that 62/38 is not such a big deal, but with the previous vote being 45/55 and the recent ongoings it is very likely enough to be a majority atleast.

They mainly used stability as an argument in the stay camp, now that argument is not valid anymore as they will go into a period of uncertainty for atleast a few years. Overall it makes the argument to leave much more interesting and that will probaly snowball.
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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby saltmummy » Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:27 am

rustles wrote:
saltmummy wrote:
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You truly are a salty mummy, fam :P

The amount of butthurt I saw the day after the vote was more than anything I've seen before. I hear Finland wants to leave next.


I just posted a picture. I don't even live there, so it's no skin off my back. For now. I hadn't heard that about finland, but I had heard that UK is trying to convince sweden and denmark to leave the EU as well. Was that here in this forum I heard that?
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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby saffgee » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:03 pm

Darwoth wrote:sounds like you have a problem with making england great again, go sit on the curb and pout next to claeyt ya little globalist.


No you idiot, England is already great. I'm annoyed that there are others that think they know better and can't see the wood for the trees - we had a great little position as the gateway to the EU which we were raking in the money from with very little downside in return. I like the EU for one reason only; it makes London a fantastically rich place. There were so many ways we could have changed the EU to our advantage. Now we are going to slide back into the cesspit we have spent literally years climbing out of. If me not wanting to be dragged into the cesspit is being a "globalist" (whatever definition you are giving that) then - ok, if you say so. Do you honestly think that the people who voted leave are the ones that will make the country great again ? If you do you've clearly never lived in the UK.
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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby saffgee » Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:18 pm

Flame wrote:
the common man in this country clearly knows better than pretty much ALL the worlds foremost experts on politics and economy


If you're talking about the "experts" that pop up in the news in these situations, those aren't experts. Those are people payed by the market crew.

If you're talking about those experts that have been around for the last 50 years, publishing books and debating about the EU and Globalization, you should check the opinion of the ones that publish for boring, economic news that no common man usually read. The news that our politicians reads, so probably the more accurated ones.

I don't know which experts you're talking about. I just hope you're not talking of the news of these days.


I don't know what or who you are talking about. I mean experts - people who know what they are talking about, experts basically. Which part of that was ambiguous. I read multiple financial market reports every morning before I go to work and I also work in that industry and all of the worlds foremost analysts and think tanks agree with what I just said. To name just a few: Mohamed El-Erian or the research teams at Morgan Stanley and Deutsche Bank. We in the industry have told and continue to tell the politicians and the country that they are wrong, but they won't listen.

In some ways it doesn't really matter to me, we had a record day on Friday and will continue to have new records as this unfolds - but the bottom line is it will cost jobs (and lots of them) and huge amounts of money the government does not have to fix this. Those jobs will not be mine or my colleagues, they will be the very people that voted for leave and the poorer parts of the country. Still, if this is what they want to do in order to achieve the fantasy of getting their sovereignty back (which we already have) or controlling their borders (which we already do), or "making the country great again" (which we already are) as Darwoth says, then good luck to them.
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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby lachlaan » Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:38 pm

@ "Make England great again!" , you realize that by the simple logic that the more local the government the better, the next step is for the states to disband, then for counties to disband on their own, then we get "MAKE VILLAGE GREAT AGAIN". There has to be some form of control of the people over their government, I'll give you that, and the more distant the government from a particular area the less it will sympathize with that crowd and the less control you'll have over them. However going backwards can't be the solution, in my opinion. It'd give us a chance to progress the proper way back towards a bigger country, yes, but it'd be way slow. What we need is people informing themselves on what the hell they're voting on and let them have some idea of how a country and/or cluster of countries should work. Then figure out how you want to achieve that particular situation, be it by striking, forcefully removing government and starting over with some nicer rules like Iceland, or whatever turns out to be the best option for everyone.
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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby Flame » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:01 pm

That's what i wanted to know, saffgee, so that i can go to check those experts as well.
News, tv, radio and other medias doesn't show any experience and mix experts with blatering, without any clear separation. You can hear "England will suffer!" or "England is made of sugar" with exactly the same reliability.
I'm skeptical about the fact that a queen and a whole party is ignorant about economy. They know more than what they show to know.

But i'm sure that we (and with we i mean 80% of us), knows nothing about economy, market and that dirty world of people reduced to numbers.

There is an army of people screaming the voice of the "expert" they listen, which usually is a facebook post from a totally unknown dude with a nice and tasty speaking, or a newspaper article that was talking about "food and dogs" the day before.
So the question was legit. "What kind of expert are you talking about?"
You gave me a name. Now it's up to me to dig into it.

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Re: UK Leaving the EU?

Postby Darwoth » Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:28 pm

when i go on a vacation to england to enjoy the new currency exchange rates i am definitely going to wear my make america great again hat since over half of england are now my anti globalist borg brethren and fellow trump fans.
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