an ebola reminder

[Jackxter]

Some of them will be desperate to come home, so desperate they might even take a circuitous route to sneak in and lie about their travel history, something which is not difficult to do. But with a quarantine, on the other hand, they are still Here, and they know that if they do get sick, they'll get the best care, and so that is much more likely to work.

I made a mistake in bunching you in the same group as Darwoth. At least you seem to be able to clarify your statements, act reasonable, and put up a decent argument. (No, I'm not being sarcastic. Consider this my form of apology for being insulting in my arguments, at least towards you. Consider any colorful language I may use in the rest of this debate to be more in jest. I really can't help myself.)

However, that being said, I still disagree.

There are only about 150 people coming here from the affected region each day.

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I find it highly unlikely that there are only 150 people travelling from said effected regions each day. Where the hell is your source? Numbers, not assumptions, please.

In fact, I'd expect there to be an influx of medical professionals coming back from Nigeria heading home for some R&R sometime soon, especially with the fact that they just beat the **** out of Ebola on its home turf (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... geria.html). God damn, they probably handled the situation better than we would. Then you've got all the members of the WHO travelling to and from crisis areas in order to coordinate relief efforts.

Seriously, I must have misread and thought you suggested a 21 hour quarantine, which I thought was a little too much, but a god damned 21 day quarantine?! That's insane! It'd just hinder efforts, and efforts that appear to be working in Nigeria, for instance, to stop the virus before it can even reach the US, not to mention commercial activity between the respected countries. And this is just the immediate effects. Imposing this sort of harsh stupidity would only confirm the good, but somewhat susceptible Average Joes in US that, holy ****! This god damned virus really is going to kill us all! Why else would the authorities do something so rash?!

Oh that's right, because people overreacted and made their government do it.

It'd just encourage the fear-mongers and increase an already unnecessarily tense situation, and ironically, get in the way of the people who are trying to stop the virus with something other than pure, unleaded fear.

[Darwoth]

thats just a scene from the movies maaaaan

[Jackxter]

thats just a scene from the movies maaaaan

I assume you keep posting these to get a reaction from me, so here it is:

1. You're not funny.
2. You're not witty.
3. You're an idiot.

But since we're posting pictures with 'witty' (aka, stereotypical depictions of liberals I'd find coming from Donald Trump) little taglines, here's a fun one:

lets ignore that since it is black folks looting **** and causing problems again.

that is because in 1996 a bunch of god damn "misunderstood youths" did not loot the ***** hospitals.

i was dismissed and called "racist" by various european retards standing around.

And you wonder why I and the rest of my fellow 'retards' have trouble taking you seriously. If you don't want to be called a racist, don't say stupid **** that sounds racist. I don't care what your intent was or if 'they mangled your words', use some filters in your vernacular. That's the last thing I have to say to you on this topic. You are about as ignorant on how to handle plagues as the guys once wearing the mask in your avatar were.

[Darwoth]

[OMFG Image Redacted]

your gettin under my skin broooo

A little less revolting please, I'm eating supper.

~Totalymeow

[Mereni]

There are only about 150 people coming here from the affected region each day.

I find it highly unlikely that there are only 150 people travelling from said effected regions each day. Where the hell is your source? Numbers, not assumptions, please.

In fact, I'd expect there to be an influx of medical professionals coming back from Nigeria heading home for some R&R sometime soon, especially with the fact that they just beat the **** out of Ebola on its home turf (http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2 ... geria.html). God damn, they probably handled the situation better than we would. Then you've got all the members of the WHO travelling to and from crisis areas in order to coordinate relief efforts.

Then look it up, because it's true. Seriously, how can you argue about a subject if you don't even research it? And how can you argue that 150 people is not a number? Try USA Today or The Telegraph.

Seriously, I must have misread and thought you suggested a 21 hour quarantine, which I thought was a little too much, but a god damned 21 day quarantine?! That's insane! It'd just hinder efforts, and efforts that appear to be working in Nigeria, for instance, to stop the virus before it can even reach the US, not to mention commercial activity between the respected countries. And this is just the immediate effects. Imposing this sort of harsh stupidity would only confirm the good, but somewhat susceptible Average Joes in US that, holy ****! This god damned virus really is going to kill us all! Why else would the authorities do something so rash?!

Oh that's right, because people overreacted and made their government do it.

It'd just encourage the fear-mongers and increase an already unnecessarily tense situation, and ironically, get in the way of the people who are trying to stop the virus with something other than pure, unleaded fear.

A 21 day quarantine is necessary for anyone who may have been exposed to Ebola to be sure they don't have it. That's the longest incubation period before symptoms start showing up and the virus begins to appear in the blood. It is very much better than the alternative. If you read the USA Today article above, you'll see that all they are doing now is screening for fever and asking if anyone came into contact with an ebola patient. Duncan underwent the same screening and passed through because he was still in the incubation period and because he helped a sick woman to the hospital and didn't know it was Ebola she had. He later fell sick and died. After that, his entire family and I think several other people he came into contact with, along with 21 people that nurse who flew to ohio came into contact with, had to be quarantined for 21 days because of ONE guy. You're not thinking about this, 150 people a day being quarantined for 21 days each is a whole lot more reasonable than having to quarantine however many dozens or hundreds of people each of them might touch before later falling sick.

As for fear mongering, this is not fear mongering. I am nervous about the current safety measures because they are completely ineffective. All they will do is pacify people who don't know any better, which is most people, granted. Now, if I heard that they were quarantining, I would be a lot less nervous as then there would be a substantially smaller chance of anyone infected actually roaming around unknown.

[MagicManICT]

And you wonder why I and the rest of my fellow 'retards' have trouble taking you seriously. If you don't want to be called a racist, don't say stupid **** that sounds racist.

i'm not going to go beyond the very first post darwoth posted in this thread, because the complaints on racism started then. What's racist about that post? Stupid is as stupid does, my momma always says. Call it for what it is: people behaving dumbly and not paying attention to the greater picture. it's pretty easy to get caught up in herd mentality.

Darwoth; if you want to post death pictures from disease, go get some from circa 1900 and other much more serious disease outbreaks that killed hundreds or thousands a day. Seems like I recall one study saying the last outbreak of bubonic plague took nearly a quarter of the European population. So far more people have died per day during the Afghan and Iraqi occupations than from this.

Also, something else for you to read, since you're stuck in scaremonger mode: http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/ ... -survived/

Not sure if forbes.com is accessible outside of the US/Canada or not, but it's all in the URL: 80% of US ebola patients have survived. Strains of the flu have been deadlier than that.

[Ass_Kraken]

[Ass_Kraken]

in the meanwhile this is how they handle ebola in MURICA



bunch of apes spreading it you said ?

God bless texas.

[Syndarn]

As far as i know with my lazy reading and not bothering to look at all facts, once you take the Ebola vaccine you will get infected. Vaccines suck anyway doesn't matter what type of vaccine it is.
There is no real natural outbreak as far as i have come to understand.

[jesi]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/o ... y-says-who

Article published in the Guardian reporting a WHO official stating two vaccines starting in trials plus a blood based serum to be available in December. As well as information about currently available treatments.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/21/healt ... index.html

Article from CNN reporting status of ebola patients in treatment in US plus additional information about planned vaccine trials. About the vaccines from this article: "The goal is to launch vaccine trials in West Africa by January, said Dr. Marie Paule Kieny, the WHO's assistant director general for health systems and innovation. The initial vaccine tests are being given to volunteers in countries such as Mali, the United States and England. It is impossible to get Ebola from the vaccines, Kieny said, because they do not contain enough of the virus' genetic material. But "there is no vaccine that has no side effects at all," she added.