Darwoth wrote:claeyt wants people like this little girl to be a defenseless future rape and stoning victim at the hands of the muslims that he supports because she does not wear a burka, thankfully ***** like him are in the minority in this country.
Of course I'm in the majority in this country. Barak Obama is president and most Americans want more restrictive gun laws. You are the one who's 'alone in the woods' Darwoth trying to convince people that what we need in this country are more Assault weapons at workplaces and schools. It's a form of a particular America Cowboy insanity that you have that you've cravenly found on the internet and for some reason think that the whole world thinks is right. Unfortunately for your views and the politicians you support, most of us aren't afraid. We don't fear foreigners. We don't fear black people. We don't fear losing our guns. We just aren't as afraid as you are in general and because of that we can enjoy life, traveling and meeting new people.
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As the river rolled over the cliffs, my own laughing joy was drowned out by the roaring deluge of the water. The great cataract of Darwoth's Tears fell over and over endlessly.
Claeyt wrote:Of course I'm in the majority in this country. Barak Obama is president and most Americans want more restrictive gun laws. You are the one who's 'alone in the woods' Darwoth trying to convince people that what we need in this country are more Assault weapons at workplaces and schools. It's a form of a particular America Cowboy insanity that you have that you've cravenly found on the internet and for some reason think that the whole world thinks is right. Unfortunately for your views and the politicians you support, most of us aren't afraid. We don't fear foreigners. We don't fear black people. We don't fear losing our guns. We just aren't as afraid as you are in general and because of that we can enjoy life, traveling and meeting new people.
Dressed in tactical gear and toting assault rifles, Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, burst into a San Bernardino social services facility and shot up a conference room where Farook’s employer, the county health department, was hosting a holiday party. The pair escaped in a black SUV after the attack, which authorities said was over within minutes, only to resurface four hours later and less than two miles away in a fierce gun battle on the city’s main drag.
That is the report. San Bernardino was a terrorist attack. I am willing to bet that they planned on attacking somewhere else but after the "work place dispute" he decided to go ahead and hit the Christmas party. I do not fear foreigners or black people. But the fact is that religion promotes violence against any one who varies from their opinion. Any organization that has the opinion that they are 100% right and that there is no discussion or argument and violence is the only way to prove their point should not be allowed to continue and that is what muslim religion is.
Tougher gun laws only impacts law abiding citizens. Those that follow the law will comply. ..criminals get their guns regardless.
Making the country unarmed prevents heros from emerging, and instead makes us all sitting ducks.
I own no guns, but I appreciate knowing that someone around does other than the police.
I'm not afraid of registered gun users, it's the illegal weapons that cause issues. There are always exceptions to the rules, but for the most part my view has held true.
Because this thread is a bit reminiscent of 'Who's on First' without the actual funny, I thought I would do a summary:
Darwoth: 3 reportedly Muslim people have shot up a Christmas party and then a mall with what are said to be AK-47s. The media is being told not to cover this and the democrats are arguing for more gun control.
All 3 dead or captured, one named Farooq Saeed.
Claeyt: I hope John is okay, but I'm going to be tacky and call him 'Chief' so I can push my 'John is Chief' agenda because this is the right time for that, right? And it wasn't a Muslim thing, it was a Christmas party argument that involved 3 people leaving and returning with guns and then running to a mall and having a shootout with police.
Darwoth: Someone I know on the scene told me FBI and JTTF are all over the scene. They don't show up for disgruntled employees shooting people, they do it for suspected terrorists.
Claeyt: No, it was some guy who got kicked out and he brought his wife and some other guy to help him get revenge. Clearly they were all mentally ill and the guy who was Muslim was also an American Citizen.
Darwoth: But it is suspected terrorism, hence the FBI and JTTF. It's implausible that 3 people would all decide go crazy and do this at the same time. Revenge shootings are usually one person. And the point isn't that they are Syrian, it's that they are Muslim.
Claeyt: First and second, these are American citizens, and can't possibly be Muslim terrorists because they are Americans. Third, you can buy a gun that is legal in any state online and ship it anywhere, even to a state that it is not legal, and no one will know.
Darwoth: NOOOOOO, you can easily be an American citizen and also be a radical Muslim, it doesn't matter what race you are.
Claety: Maybe it was only 2 people went crazy at the same time. Is that more plausible? It was totally some American maniac with an assault rifle.
Darwoth: Your third point back there was *****. You have to file the proper forms and get your gun sent to a certified dealer when you buy online. You can't just ship it anywhere and it does have to be a legal firearm where you live.
Claety: Well, I bet these guys still bought their guns legally because there are no laws against any type of gun in California.
Darwoth: What the Hell difference does that make? You're just mad because you're wrong about being able to ship a guy anywhere and are trying to deflect.
It doesn't matter though, Trump will be the next president and he's a solid Republican, not a liberal Democratic sort pretending to be Republican.
Rubberduckbandit: Claeyt is such a ***** *******, there are restrictions on what sort of guns you can buy in CA.
Claeyt: I'm not lying! Republicans won't let people collect data on guns and that is relevant! I have guns!
And Hilary and Sanders will totally beat Trump because they are not pretending to be Republican. Yes, I completely misread what Darwoth just said.
And here's a wiki article defining 'assault weapon'.
Rubberduckbandit. What the ***** does the definition of an assault weapon have to do with anything? I know what they are. You make me sick defending terrorists. Why are you so evil??
Darwoth: 'Assault weapon' is a confusing, made-up term that doesn't really mean anything but was used as a scary buzzword to get certain gun components banned in various states, and many times the banned components didn't even make sense. Many components such as a barrel shroud have been banned in various states using this term.
You were lying about the 'get guns on the internet and send them anywhere' and you should admit it now.
Claeyt: My definition of assault rifle is that it is semi-automatic, has a detachable magazine, and a pistol grip.
Some Islamic people who weren't there are saying it wasn't a religious shooting. Case closed.
There was another shooting somewhere else and I'm bringing this up because I want to brag to Europe about how many shootings we have. I'm not going to give any details though, or links, so maybe I'm making this up, I don't know. How lazy are you?
Nononono, I totally said you'd have to pick the gun up at a dealer. By 'anywhere' I clearly meant 'at a legal dealer'. And even if the gun is illegal in your state, they'll still totally let you do that, right?
Rubberduckbandit: This is stupid. Who cares what qualifies as an assault rifle? It has nothing to do with the subject at hand. They could just as easily have made their own weapons if the one they wanted wasn't legal.
Claeyt: Ignoring everything said so far and the subject at hand, there was a ban on Assault Weapons in the 90's but it expired now and if they voted on it right now, it would totally pass.
Darwoth: Do you not realize that you just claimed a certain gun would be perfectly legal in CA and then turned around and said it wouldn't because you know nothing about guns an are just talking out your ass?
And just because some people who weren't there but happen to be Muslim claimed that it wasn't a religious shooting doesn't mean it wasn't.
And yes, that law did have a sunset clause, it wouldn't have passes otherwise, and it wouldn't pass today.
In the end, it doesn't matter what is legal, those who want a gun will be able to get or make one illegally. You can't stop them. Laws only stop people who will obey them.
Claeyt: I have a complete misunderstanding of CA gun laws but my posts are based on what I thought was true at the time so even if I'm wrong, I sure won't admit it! I'm going to say a few things about types of guns and then declare all assault weapons bad and they totally need to be banned. But I'm not going to tell you why, I just don't want to you think too hard about all the other things I've said or wonder what any of what I've said in the past few pages has do with whatever weapons these Muslim people had.
Darwoth: And this is why no one listens to Claeyt. He never finishes an argument, he speaks in vague terms most of the time, and he rebuts by changing the subject.
I could go on forever about exactly what the law says about gun ownership, but I won't unless someone besides Claeyt cares because it would go right over his head.
Claety: Are you still here?
Darwoth: Update, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik are the shooter's names, they also went to saudi arabia last year.
Claeyt: Everyone totally agrees with me that we need more restrictions on our guns. I'm not racist at all, but you clearly are a racist Cowboy. Racist!
Jakhollin: They're reporting this as a terrorist attack.
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jakhollin wrote:That is the report. San Bernardino was a terrorist attack. I am willing to bet that they planned on attacking somewhere else but after the "work place dispute" he decided to go ahead and hit the Christmas party.
I don't mind calling it a Terrorist attack if that's what you're worried about. This seems more like some weird kind of hybrid work place shooting/terrorist thing with a specific American gun nut spin on it. The guy apparently said he liked sport shooting on a dating website awhile ago. The FBI apparently traced all 4 of the guns they owned (2 semi-auto handguns and 2 AR-15's) and stated that at least 2 were purchased legally. If it was the AR-15's then the guy has probably owned them for awhile.
The more important thing here is that there is actually very little difference between this guy and the loner gunmen we've seen or the religious nut that shot up the planned parenthood last week. They all had a fascination with violence and thought they were right and everyone else is wrong.
Tulgarath wrote:Tougher gun laws only impacts law abiding citizens. Those that follow the law will comply. ..criminals get their guns regardless.
This is not how it has to be. We have 20x the murder rate of most European countries. Guns can be rolled back in many, many ways. All we have to do is look at Australia which is celebrating 20 years of being gun free after the Port Arthur massacre. Their murder rates have dropped so significantly that literally hundreds of people are still alive today because of what those politicians so bravely did back then. Many of them were voted out of office because just like America, Australians loved their guns. Australia now views that PM and that parliament as heroes for how they stood up and said "enough".
If you want to keep it more simple then just look at Canada's completely reasonable gun laws and how their murder rate and gun nut rampage rates have fallen as it's become harder and harder to buy Semi-auto weapons there.
Gun laws work. There's reams and reams of data that prove that NATIONAL gun laws work. It's pretty hard for Californians to control gun sales across the open border with Nevada if one state bans assault weapons and another doesn't.
TotalyMeow wrote:Because this thread is a bit reminiscent of 'Who's on First' without the actual funny, I thought I would do a summary:
Darwoth: 3 reportedly Muslim people have shot up a Christmas party and then a mall with what are said to be AK-47s. The media is being told not to cover this and the democrats are arguing for more gun control.
All 3 dead or captured, one named Farooq Saeed.
Claeyt: I hope John is okay, but I'm going to be tacky and call him 'Chief' so I can push my 'John is Chief' agenda because this is the right time for that, right? And it wasn't a Muslim thing, it was a Christmas party argument that involved 3 people leaving and returning with guns and then running to a mall and having a shootout with police.
Darwoth: Someone I know on the scene told me FBI and JTTF are all over the scene. They don't show up for disgruntled employees shooting people, they do it for suspected terrorists.
Claeyt: No, it was some guy who got kicked out and he brought his wife and some other guy to help him get revenge. Clearly they were all mentally ill and the guy who was Muslim was also an American Citizen.
Darwoth: But it is suspected terrorism, hence the FBI and JTTF. It's implausible that 3 people would all decide go crazy and do this at the same time. Revenge shootings are usually one person. And the point isn't that they are Syrian, it's that they are Muslim.
Claeyt: First and second, these are American citizens, and can't possibly be Muslim terrorists because they are Americans. Third, you can buy a gun that is legal in any state online and ship it anywhere, even to a state that it is not legal, and no one will know.
Darwoth: NOOOOOO, you can easily be an American citizen and also be a radical Muslim, it doesn't matter what race you are.
Claety: Maybe it was only 2 people went crazy at the same time. Is that more plausible? It was totally some American maniac with an assault rifle.
Darwoth: Your third point back there was *****. You have to file the proper forms and get your gun sent to a certified dealer when you buy online. You can't just ship it anywhere and it does have to be a legal firearm where you live.
Claety: Well, I bet these guys still bought their guns legally because there are no laws against any type of gun in California.
Darwoth: What the Hell difference does that make? You're just mad because you're wrong about being able to ship a guy anywhere and are trying to deflect.
It doesn't matter though, Trump will be the next president and he's a solid Republican, not a liberal Democratic sort pretending to be Republican.
Rubberduckbandit: Claeyt is such a ***** *******, there are restrictions on what sort of guns you can buy in CA.
Claeyt: I'm not lying! Republicans won't let people collect data on guns and that is relevant! I have guns!
And Hilary and Sanders will totally beat Trump because they are not pretending to be Republican. Yes, I completely misread what Darwoth just said.
And here's a wiki article defining 'assault weapon'.
Rubberduckbandit. What the ***** does the definition of an assault weapon have to do with anything? I know what they are. You make me sick defending terrorists. Why are you so evil??
Darwoth: 'Assault weapon' is a confusing, made-up term that doesn't really mean anything but was used as a scary buzzword to get certain gun components banned in various states, and many times the banned components didn't even make sense. Many components such as a barrel shroud have been banned in various states using this term.
You were lying about the 'get guns on the internet and send them anywhere' and you should admit it now.
Claeyt: My definition of assault rifle is that it is semi-automatic, has a detachable magazine, and a pistol grip.
Some Islamic people who weren't there are saying it wasn't a religious shooting. Case closed.
There was another shooting somewhere else and I'm bringing this up because I want to brag to Europe about how many shootings we have. I'm not going to give any details though, or links, so maybe I'm making this up, I don't know. How lazy are you?
Nononono, I totally said you'd have to pick the gun up at a dealer. By 'anywhere' I clearly meant 'at a legal dealer'. And even if the gun is illegal in your state, they'll still totally let you do that, right?
Rubberduckbandit: This is stupid. Who cares what qualifies as an assault rifle? It has nothing to do with the subject at hand. They could just as easily have made their own weapons if the one they wanted wasn't legal.
Claeyt: Ignoring everything said so far and the subject at hand, there was a ban on Assault Weapons in the 90's but it expired now and if they voted on it right now, it would totally pass.
Darwoth: Do you not realize that you just claimed a certain gun would be perfectly legal in CA and then turned around and said it wouldn't because you know nothing about guns an are just talking out your ass?
And just because some people who weren't there but happen to be Muslim claimed that it wasn't a religious shooting doesn't mean it wasn't.
And yes, that law did have a sunset clause, it wouldn't have passes otherwise, and it wouldn't pass today.
In the end, it doesn't matter what is legal, those who want a gun will be able to get or make one illegally. You can't stop them. Laws only stop people who will obey them.
Claeyt: I have a complete misunderstanding of CA gun laws but my posts are based on what I thought was true at the time so even if I'm wrong, I sure won't admit it! I'm going to say a few things about types of guns and then declare all assault weapons bad and they totally need to be banned. But I'm not going to tell you why, I just don't want to you think too hard about all the other things I've said or wonder what any of what I've said in the past few pages has do with whatever weapons these Muslim people had.
Darwoth: And this is why no one listens to Claeyt. He never finishes an argument, he speaks in vague terms most of the time, and he rebuts by changing the subject.
I could go on forever about exactly what the law says about gun ownership, but I won't unless someone besides Claeyt cares because it would go right over his head.
Claety: Are you still here?
Darwoth: Update, Syed Farook and Tashfeen Malik are the shooter's names, they also went to saudi arabia last year.
Claeyt: Everyone totally agrees with me that we need more restrictions on our guns. I'm not racist at all, but you clearly are a racist Cowboy. Racist!
Jakhollin: They're reporting this as a terrorist attack.
I'll work my way backwards here to show where you are wrong:
They are NOT reporting this as a terrorist attack...YET. Only FOX news is calling it a terrorist attack. The shooters attacked their office Xmas party. I'm sure the guys religious views or workplace arguments had something to do with it but right now the FBI is saying that it wasn't an organized terrorist attack from any overseas source like ISIS.
Not everyone totally agrees with me of course but 76% of Americans believe we need to strengthen restrictions on guns. You can make fun of me all you want but Darwoth's (and apparently your) views are outliers in this country and around the world. Yours and Darwoth's views on guns are not the normal view Americans have.
Syed Farook went back to Saudi Arabia last year because he met Malik online on some sort of dating site. Syed who was religious used Arabic dating sites from countries like Saudi Arabia. They apparently may have been married there or started dating. She came back with him and they had a kid 6 months ago.
Of course I'll finish an argument. I love arguing. Darwoth's rantings are not arguments. They're generally racist/fascist like rantings about how black people, arabic people, refugees, liberals who ever are destroying the world. I'm surprised you find them rational because most Americans would find them pretty strange and bizarre.
Many people listen to me. I've gotten several PM's just today thanking me for arguing against Darwoth's (and apparently your) right wing nonsense. You're an admin, go into my Pm's and look at it.
I don't have a complete misunderstanding of CA gun laws. I follow this stuff all the time. I hadn't read the new restrictions that were passed last winter and admitted that part of what I said was wrong but Darwoth is wrong about detachable clips being illegal in CA. Assault weapons do need to be banned. The rest of the world looks at us and wonders why we allow people to own these things. They think we're nuts. Assault weapons should be banned because they generally have no use. Large magazines, detachable options and rapid semi-auto are only good for mass killings. Sport shooting and other nonsense uses are not legitimate reasons for these weapons to be made available to the public. There are other weapons that are better for hunting and home defense. They are used by people in these mass shooting because of how many people they can kill quickly. If these 'muslims' as you like to call them had pump-action shot guns and revolvers it would have been harder for them to kill so many, so quickly. This is why Assault weapons like AR-15's need to be illegal nation wide.
It does matter what gun is legal and what isn't. Look at Australia, look at Canada, look at any other country that has made these useless guns illegal and they don't have anything like what we have in gun violence. Darwoth is wrong about detachable magazines being illegal in California. I was wrong, and said so, that Assault weapons can be purchased legally from out of state. Currently it looks like you need an exception from the DOJ of CA to buy one or bring one into the state. They of course are completely legal to buy across the state line in Nevada, if illegal to bring across the state border into CA.
Many of the restrictions of the Assault weapons ban of 1998 would be passable right now. They have been blocked by Republican leadership 3 times now from being put to a floor vote.
Assault weapons are pretty clearly defined and it's an absolutely common term in America. I don't know why you guys are ignoring it's common use in America. I could post the actual US or CA laws concerning Assault weapons but why do that when it's easier to just post the wikipedia article that quotes them and makes it simpler for the foreign forum readers to understand what we're talking about.
I never said, "Case Closed". Way to be simple minded Tmeow. Right now it doesn't look like an ISIS attack or anything like that. It looks like some sort of crazy workplace shooting with religious overtones. Either way their easy access to guns made the rampage worse. If it IS some sort of religious attack then so be it. I don't care about the 'Why' either way. I barely see any difference between this nut job shooting up his Xmas party with his wife, last weeks nut job shooting up a women's health clinic, or last months nut job shooting up his creative writing class in Oregon. They are all nut jobs who had easy access to guns and owned guns in this violent country with lax gun laws.
Why do you guys think Sanders is "pretending" to be a Republican. I can't think of anything sillier than to say that he's doing that. As for Hillary she's increasingly talking more and more like Obama even though I'm still not glad about her ties to Wall Street. None of the Dem's sound like the insanity coming from the Republicans anymore really. They're in a universe of their own. Sure Trump is a Republican but he's quickly losing the support of non-political mainstream Republicans (most recently Bill Crystal) who are saying they won't support him if he wins the nomination. Reasonable republicans like Kaesich (who accepted Obamacare medicaid expansions), Bush and Rubio (who support immigration reform and a path to citizenship), Paul ( who supports drug and prison reform) and Christie (who isn't virally anti-abortion or pro-gun) are increasingly marginalized by the insano-wing types like Cruz, Trump and Carson. Vote for whoever you want. I don't care. Right now all polls but FOX news have both Hillary and Sanders beating all 3 of the top republican contenders.
'Assault Weapon' isn't a confusing term but if all of sudden the US started banning mags that hold over 10, rapid semi-auto, pistol grips and detachable options, I'd be fine with that. All 'Assault Weapon' refers to is the use of the gun in my opinion. It's used for Assault purposes and not for hunting or home defense.
You CAN buy any gun in America and ship it to anywhere. Of course I meant you can ship it to any DEALER anywhere in America and if it's legal to own/buy in that state you can take it home. I already said I was somewhat wrong about the new CA laws on assault weapons while Darwoth is wrong on CA laws on detachable clips. Of course there are ways to get around the new CA laws on Assault weapons if you don't want to try for an exemption from the DOJ.
I was worried about Chief/JC/Jwhitehorn. Also Slapacookie lives like 20 minutes from all this. It's important to remember that we're a 'community' Tmeow and that we should act like it. Why is it wrong for us to worry about our fellow Salemites when RL violence hits close to them?
Of course the FBI showed up to all the mass shooting this month in America. A JTTF just means that it's a federal coordinated task force of the FBI and DHS and others if terrorism is a possibility.
There weren't 3 shooters, just the man and his wife.
jorb wrote:(jwhitehorn) you are an ungrateful, spoiled child
As the river rolled over the cliffs, my own laughing joy was drowned out by the roaring deluge of the water. The great cataract of Darwoth's Tears fell over and over endlessly.
12 pipe bombs and a dud remote one. I'd say it's terrorists
also, i cant speak for anyone else, but my state has been receiving bomb threats to various colleges and schools all..day..long
Yep. Crimes coming from anger do not normally involve tactical gear and pipe bombs. That is exact proof of premeditated intent on causing harm. Pipe bomb construction is not a normal hobby for most people.
Perhaps the should have gone to training so they could get their little bomb to operate like the wonderful instructor below was able to do....
Claeyt wrote:The more important thing here is that there is actually very little difference between this guy and the loner gunmen we've seen or the religious nut that shot up the planned parenthood last week. They all had a fascination with violence and thought they were right and everyone else is wrong.
There is a big difference between a crazy lone gunman who wakes up and decides to be a general douche to society while forgetting his meds in the morning they had bombs.
Yeah, he was making IED's in his condo. The feds are saying it's some sort of workplace dispute/long term radical thing. They only have him traveling to Saudi Arabia for 2 weeks for the Hajj back in 2013 where he met the girl from Pakistan so it doesn't look like he was trained by ISIS or anything like that. My guess is that he was probably a locally radicalized American Muslim looking to do more damage than just shoot up his holiday party with his wife. They have him calling other people on watch lists but they don't think it was a coordinated attack outside of him and his wife.
I don't know why you think I care if it was 'Terrorism' or if he was Muslim, Tmeow and Darwoth. If it was some 2nd generation Radicalized Muslim-American who was pissed off about America bombing Syrians or like last weeks radicalized crazy loner Christian-American who was pissed off about all the lies about Planned Parent selling "baby parts", they're both just religious nuts using violence because they think they're right and the world is wrong, In my opinion.
jakhollin wrote:Yep. Crimes coming from anger do not normally involve tactical gear and pipe bombs. That is exact proof of premeditated intent on causing harm. Pipe bomb construction is not a normal hobby for most people.
There is a big difference between a crazy lone gunman who wakes up and decides to be a general douche to society while forgetting his meds in the morning they had bombs.
James Holmes (schizophrenic) in the Aurora mass theater shooting made a ton of bombs, including pipe bombs.
The guy at the Planned parenthood definitely had a plan and as far as I know was just weird, not medicated. So did the guy in Oregon last month.
I don't see that big a difference between these 2 or the guy at Planned parenthood or for that matter the guy who attacked the Sikh temple here in Wisconsin awhile ago who killed 6 people. They all thought religion justified why they did what they did. These 2 in CA were just more organized than the other 2.
It's hard to say "Muslims are bad, Christians are good" when all of them just seem stupidly brainwashed and capable of this *****.
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jorb wrote:(jwhitehorn) you are an ungrateful, spoiled child
As the river rolled over the cliffs, my own laughing joy was drowned out by the roaring deluge of the water. The great cataract of Darwoth's Tears fell over and over endlessly.
Claeyt wrote:Yeah, he was making IED's in his condo. The feds are saying it's some sort of workplace dispute/long term radical thing. They only have him traveling to Saudi Arabia for 2 weeks for the Hajj back in 2013 where he met the girl from Pakistan so it doesn't look like he was trained by ISIS or anything like that. My guess is that he was probably a locally radicalized American Muslim looking to do more damage than just shoot up his holiday party with his wife. They have him calling other people on watch lists but they don't think it was a coordinated attack outside of him and his wife.
I don't know why you think I care if it was 'Terrorism' or if he was Muslim, Tmeow and Darwoth. If it was some 2nd generation Radicalized Muslim-American who was pissed off about America bombing Syrians or like last weeks radicalized crazy loner Christian-American who was pissed off about all the lies about Planned Parent selling "baby parts", they're both just religious nuts using violence because they think they're right and the world is wrong, In my opinion.
I don't think you get what terrorism is. In a large sum of the occasions of terrorist attacks they do not have training, they do not have direct ties to a larger organization, they have an idealism that is tainted and the muslim culture is pretty damn good at tainting others from far away without even talking to them. Terrorism is just as it is defined anyone who is inspired to do harm to inspire fear so as to gain recognition of their cause. And their cause is dirka dirka jihad fart. So until that is replaced and they re-write their freaking retard manual to not have killing every person who does not believe them there are going to be retards asking their picnic cloth hat wearing kkk garbed retard asking "what button do I push habib huessain" mother f***ers running around blowing **** up. There is no changing their opinion so the next best effort is to starve them out stop them from coming in your country any way we can and kill everyone of them that we can confirm is a terrorist.
jakhollin wrote:I don't think you get what terrorism is. In a large sum of the occasions of terrorist attacks they do not have training, they do not have direct ties to a larger organization, they have an idealism that is tainted and the muslim culture is pretty damn good at tainting others from far away without even talking to them. Terrorism is just as it is defined anyone who is inspired to do harm to inspire fear so as to gain recognition of their cause. And their cause is dirka dirka jihad fart. So until that is replaced and they re-write their freaking retard manual to not have killing every person who does not believe them there are going to be retards asking their picnic cloth hat wearing kkk garbed retard asking "what button do I push habib huessain" mother f***ers running around blowing **** up. There is no changing their opinion so the next best effort is to starve them out stop them from coming in your country any way we can and kill everyone of them that we can confirm is a terrorist.
Well said
I view both the Christian planned parenthood shooting (this isn't the first Christian Right abortion attack in America either) and any radicalized muslim attack (9/11, Fort Hood, San Bernadino) as "Terrorism" because they're both about an overall theme of violence to support whichever worldview. They might be organized or they might just be some dude from Northern Wisconsin who came down with a plan to attack my local Planned Parenthood and some deer hunting rifles who listened to too much crazy on his local Christian Preacher channel. (This happened in my town last year, luckily he was caught first)
It's pretty hard to starve them out or stop them from coming in to your country when this guy in San Bernardino was born here and went to public high school. I think they're reporting that one of his parents was born here as well so that would make him 3rd generation Muslim-American. But you're right in that we have to fight 'The Idea' behind radical Islam and not just focus on 'Arabs' or 'Islam'.
jorb wrote:(jwhitehorn) you are an ungrateful, spoiled child
As the river rolled over the cliffs, my own laughing joy was drowned out by the roaring deluge of the water. The great cataract of Darwoth's Tears fell over and over endlessly.
