Criminals in the Darkness

[Dallane]

Nothing wrong with defences in light, maybe you should stop using 90% of your iron on lockets and build more than a token amount of braziers.

you need a massive claim and multiple layers of braziers and walls but yeah they are fine really. There are just so many people with terrible set ups

[Tonkyhonk]

If you guys have the humours you claim to have, you have very low drain here, with crime debuff. Do this with 5-10 people and you can get through 5 walls in no time.
But i guess anything that can't be raided in less then 1 hour is impossible for you.

20:22 Edgar > cuz my ingame wall, im sure u cant get mine to 5% even

so, you were lying or what?


imho, "perfect" defenses should not happen in this game because that will make politics meaningless.

[darnokpl]

So i can make a vault in the darkness the size of my current town and then go into the light area's and rampage like i did in the 1st world? There would be no retaliation with the play times my village has with people playing from all part of the world. that's balanced?

Of course you can, but you can't finish it before other factions will finish their town in light.

You need first to make camp or town in light then level up your char and start town in deep darkness,
but that means it will take almost twice longer to secure two towns than in light.
After you finish terraforming and building you go for murder alts, but most of factions will have twice more murder alts and braziers in their "in light" bases.
It is like a race, just like in HnH, but here we have choice
You and staxjax slept for too long and now you are crying that others got their town in darkness at size of your gallow hills and you can only pray for balance.

The world isn't balanced atm because players have grown much stronger then stone walls. we need better walls and better braziers to match the humors of the players. Even now we need the 4th wall to match where most of us in the bigger towns are seeing the 200-300 area.

Isn't that what is said?
You can make hard to destroy HV, but if some large faction will decide to loot you farmers they are defenceless.

[darnokpl]

If you guys have the humours you claim to have, you have very low drain here, with crime debuff. Do this with 5-10 people and you can get through 5 walls in no time.
But i guess anything that can't be raided in less then 1 hour is impossible for you.

20:22 Edgar > cuz my ingame wall, im sure u cant get mine to 5% even

so, you were lying or what?


imho, "perfect" defenses should not happen in this game because that will make politics meaningless.

But you can destroy whole town in darkness if you got enough people on your side and time.
You can make few days time raids, defenders still need to work and sleep on same hours, well maybe they will play +1-2h per day more if they are during siege.

[Dallane]

You and staxjax slept for too long and now you are crying that others got their town in darkness at size of your gallow hills and you can only pray for balance.

One idea is no crime debuff in the darkness. Its going to change. Its been confirmed by jorb

[Tonkyhonk]

But you can destroy whole town in darkness if you got enough people on your side and time.
You can make few days time raids, defenders still need to work and sleep on same hours, well maybe they will play +1-2h per day more if they are during siege.

i dont care if you find it possible or impossible. (and if you think you can, prove it.)
my point is alloin is conflicting himself with his own word.

[darnokpl]

You and staxjax slept for too long and now you are crying that others got their town in darkness at size of your gallow hills and you can only pray for balance.

One idea is no crime debuff in the darkness. Its going to change. Its been confirmed by jorb

As the end game feature or just right now?

[Dallane]

You and staxjax slept for too long and now you are crying that others got their town in darkness at size of your gallow hills and you can only pray for balance.

One idea is no crime debuff in the darkness. Its going to change. Its been confirmed by jorb

As the end game feature or just right now?

now lol. darkness wasn't meant for people to hide after they rampage.

[darnokpl]

But you can destroy whole town in darkness if you got enough people on your side and time.
You can make few days time raids, defenders still need to work and sleep on same hours, well maybe they will play +1-2h per day more if they are during siege.

i dont care if you find it possible or impossible. (and if you think you can, prove it.)
my point is alloin is conflicting himself with his own word.

Then I missed that.

imho, "perfect" defenses should not happen in this game because that will make politics meaningless.

That is point where we all agree.

EDIT:

now lol. darkness wasn't meant for people to hide after they rampage.

I smell wipe then.

[Dallane]

I smell wipe then.

I wouldn't think so but you never know.