Misogyny in online gaming

[dageir]

what edifices of behaviors or morality you believe progressives tore down and deconstructed

I find the public expressions of modernity to be shallow, vain, stale, technocratic, petty, animalistic, lonely, ugly, egotistic, spiritually lacking and devoid of meaning, and feel instead far more comfortable in what I perceive to be the vertically oriented, familial, richer, fuller, and more integrated world view and symbolism of what can broadly be described as the old order, that is to say traditional, Christian and Monarchical European societies as they appeared -- rooted in the soil of their making -- before the murderous ravages of the 20th century. When I lament Jacobin deconstruction, it is precisely the deconstruction of traditional, legitimate authority and natural order I lament, i.e. the systematic subversion of symbols such as those of -- most visibly -- throne and altar, and their replacement instead with the symbols of money and the guillotine, that is to say corporate neo-mercantilism and democracy.(1)

I do not believe in democracy, nor in human equality before any yardstick other than God.(2) The forms, concepts, expressions and internal contradictions of liberal secular religion and theology are not mine, and I take no interest in them. I consider beauty to be an objective category, and a human value of no lesser an importance than that of truth or justice.


I believe that God in his image made men and women separate and distinct. I recognize the fundamental distinctness of archetypes such as 'Mother' and 'Father', and I do not believe that human life or understanding is served by reducing such wondrous categories of structured reality to an undifferentiated muddle of indistinct chaos, i.e. "equality". It follows that I feel no particular compulsion to treat men and women "equally", but on the contrary always with respect for the fullness and integrity of their persons.(3)

I consider any assertion of equality as a value to be incompatible with the recognition of human personhood and personality; the fundamental, manifold expressions of harmonious -- that is to say differentiated and fundamentally unequal -- reality, and the most beautiful qualities of the human condition.(4)

I believe it virtuous to put kith and kin before strangers.
I do not consider fornication to be the apex of human personal achievement. (5)

This makes perfect sense to me:

This does not:

(6)

I am of course well aware that the Fall from Grace is of a far older date than the 20th century, and I entertain no Utopian illusions about any actualized earthly perfection at any time since.(7)

I believe in love, humility, grace, mercy, humor and forgiveness, and in meeting my fellow men in the most Christian spirit I can possibly muster. (8)

The Lord knows I struggle at times.

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It is precisely this the very understanding of virtue that has been deconstructed and torn down.

All flesh is hay.

This is very interesting, and unique that a game developer divulges his personal beliefs. I have some follow up questions and comments:

1. You want to go back to the time where there was one ruling figure on the top whom you think actually ruled everything? The man or men (and sometime women) on top could be inbred retards. (Ok, sometimes this happens in modernity, but someone actually voted for them.) In a world where there was almost no "diffusion" between the classes. Where your occupation was decided by the occupation of your father? Where the rulers started wars on a whim? (Ok bad example.)
Peasants could not choose to leave "their" land because they and their progeny were bound to it for all generations to come.
2. There is no equality of men until death. The institutionalized God is a construct to get the slaves to bend their knees. At least a institutionalized God in whom you seem to refer to. A personal belief based on ones own experience with the world I have no problems with understanding, but when it comes to a priesthood or any other form of governing entity that decides right from wrong I get problems both logical and ethical.
3. Yeah the sexes are different..
4. Yeah human indidviduals are all different, even monozygotic twins.
5. Obviously.
6. We share this opinion.
7. Was the fall from grace when Eve tricked Adam?
8.What is your definition of the christian spirit? I know about many things that have been in the Lords name that Jesus himself might not approve wholeheartedly of.

[CockyBastard]

Beware abusive sentence within, I questioned his vocabulary and he sexually harassed me (I'm a man in real life - just to set the record, 30's, single and beautiful)

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[CockyBastard]

I play games with my (REAL) wife and enjoy it
We even make sandwiches for eachother

OMG!
mmm sounds yummy, what fillings?

Is Darwoth always cranky like this or is it this time of the month again? I hope this isn't abusive/sexist language

He thinks this thread will be good to get post count up to 1k, thus the non sensical posts.

This is some next-level trolling right here. Well played cockybastard.

They went rabid on my thread without waiting for me to come back online.

Out of interest: if you point out that you are male in a forum dominated by females, would one receive any downgrading treatment?

Women have their own "treatment" for men when they have number superiority. As someone who has lived with groups of women as the only man, and worked in places where there were only about 5% blokes (if even), that has been my experience. Just take a look at any married guy with all daughters. I bet in most cases he looks pretty browbeaten lol. I imagine the same thing would occur on forums as well, but I'm unsure. It's interesting to consider how their behavior would change as a result of anonymity.

Nah, just be a man and do what you want - the girls will come to know you are Man/Machine and respect you. None of this majority rules, Man does what man wants. He is beast who cannot be controlled or understood. You need heaving lifting - go find Man.
If you are going to be owned that is your demeanor, not only will the females push you around your pets will also be top of the pecking order - "feed me now, leave food out so that I may eat myself fat, let me sleep on your bed and have run of the house."

(did you know dogs are related to bears?)

*Bows to a greater wisdom (and vocabulary)

I think I agree. Men and women are different, equalilty should only be espoused in opportunity. And the love of money may not be the root of all evil, but its sure down there somewhere. Values have changed, and not for the better. In a world where millions are spent on arms, people still starve. Where cures for diseases are priced in dollars not in compassion. A lot of good comes with progress, but it has its down side too. A selfish, throw away world that wants instant gratification without regard to others.
Basically...
yup

Wrong - people are not starving they are breeding beyond their means, but we can start a new thread about that [next week okay?]

I'd love to say "end the derail"

Well, it is in off topic and they are kind of on track - debating how society is no longer respectful (thats the gist correct?).
And Jorb must be burnt out fixing purity so he has arrived here to rant, I mean let of some steam.
BTW the girls left this thread ages ago.

And with that; "It was me I started the post."

ps. Is this my thread?

[martinuzz]

choosing to live within the democratic government and society

Worked wonders for Socrates.

Socrates never existed, he was merely a fictional figure in Plato's mind and Apologia

[Wournos]

Anyone going around declaring their gender without any prompt whatsoever deserves all the sexist comments they get.

Just like females wearing short skirts deserve to be raped by horny men.

I do hope this is terrible sarcasm. There is nothing that riles me up more than "horny men" thinking it's ok to force themselves on women. Personally, I'd torture their sorry asses slowly to the point where they will never be able to use their "precious brain" ever again.
I can put up with a lot because I usually ignore immature and insecure male behaviour. But joking about rape? No.

I believe the statistics of women being sexually harassed in any form is around 1/5 here in Sweden. Way too high in my opinion.

[Claeyt]

Socrates never existed, he was merely a fictional figure in Plato's mind and Apologia

Then why does he have his own Wikipedia page.


A better statement would be that "Socratic importance never existed, he was merely embellished by his students Plato and Apologia." This statement of course denies the histories of Xenophon and the plays of Aristophanes, who lived in Athens with him and used him in as an example in their works also.

Was Socrates death and importance exaggerated by Plato? Maybe. Did he die for his beliefs? Probably. Did he live in Athens and influence the minds of some of the most important philosopher's and artists in ancient Greece and through them the entire Western canon of thought? Most definitely.

[ysbryd]

I swear I dunno what happened Sir!
I got on a train heading to Misogyny Missouri and somehow ended up in Idolitory Indiana!
Must be summat wrong with the rails

[FutureForJames]

Christian ideologies disturb everybody with a moral compass and a logically-inclined head on their shoulders.

You are saying that you are a Christian now?

I truly hope you are trolling because with every post in this thread you are losing more and more respect from this community, and let's be honest, after leaving H&H for Salem, you need every last little bit of respect you can muster from both communities.

He should receive more respect for being brave enough to share his unpopular beliefs. Specially given that he was born and raised in one of the most liberal countries in the world: Sweden.

[FutureForJames]

Anyone going around declaring their gender without any prompt whatsoever deserves all the sexist comments they get.

Just like females wearing short skirts deserve to be raped by horny men.

I do hope this is terrible sarcasm. There is nothing that riles me up more than "horny men" thinking it's ok to force themselves on women. Personally, I'd torture their sorry asses slowly to the point where they will never be able to use their "precious brain" ever again.
I can put up with a lot because I usually ignore immature and insecure male behaviour. But joking about rape? No.

I believe the statistics of women being sexually harassed in any form is around 1/5 here in Sweden. Way too high in my opinion.

It is terrible sarcasm.

[FutureForJames]

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I'd definitely agree that there seems to be a sentiment of misogyny in some games that are hugely male dominated, but I've never seen it here. In particular I notice it in First Person Shooters.

Which is odd. Because in male dominated MMO style games women are often fawned over and pampered.

(...)

I haven't played in towns (by town, I mean an actual town with other people, not just a town bell) for a long time ever since I went underground, but when I did play in towns and was "social", I had to agree with you: I never saw any misogyny in Salem.

League of Legends is full of it though XD.