Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby Ass_Kraken » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:29 am

Mereni wrote:
Staxjax hasn't even mentioned racism.


Okay, then whatever he meant by saying they constantly **** on the Native American race, I haven't seen that happening.

My personal favorite was the one where he implied that all Native American's believed that the universe was shat (? *****? Shatted?) out of an alligator's *******.
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby KingdomOfOne » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:39 am

Procne wrote:Chief gets banned and weird topic appears on forum, including "TotalyMoo is hot" message...
Sounds familiar?


Unless the chief suddenly had a sex change, you 100% wrong on your little assumption there guy.
Also, procne, I wouldn't be wasting time on the forums, when we find you....
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby Devourer_of_Pancakes » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:53 am

They're not really wrong, imho. However, I don't see myself signing this treaty. I value my independence as a hermit and do not want to commit to supporting a faction.

If this treaty was brought as a completely optional service, where you can choose to pay up and fall under the tribe's protection (or choose not to and fend for yourself), I might think differently about it. It's honestly not a bad deal (assuming they live up to their end of the bargain).

Also, what Ass_Kraken said. There's not a chance in the world I'd want to associate myself with a bunch of mindless, prepubescent, backside-licking fanbois (which is how I view the majority of the Chief's followers).
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby KingdomOfOne » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:54 am

Devourer_of_Pancakes wrote:They're not really wrong, imho. However, I don't see myself signing this treaty. I value my independence as a hermit and do not want to commit to supporting a faction.

If this treaty was brought as a completely optional service, where you can choose to pay up and fall under the tribe's protection (or choose not to and fend for yourself), I might think differently about it. It's honestly not a bad deal (assuming they live up to their end of the bargain).

Also, what Ass_Kraken said. There's not a chance in the world I'd want to associate myself with a bunch of mindless, prepubescent, backside-licking fanbois (which is how I view the majority of the Chief's followers).


It is optional, but if we say to happen upon your place of residence and you aren't paying?
You get the drift.
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby colesie » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:04 am

KingdomOfOne wrote:
Devourer_of_Pancakes wrote:They're not really wrong, imho. However, I don't see myself signing this treaty. I value my independence as a hermit and do not want to commit to supporting a faction.

If this treaty was brought as a completely optional service, where you can choose to pay up and fall under the tribe's protection (or choose not to and fend for yourself), I might think differently about it. It's honestly not a bad deal (assuming they live up to their end of the bargain).

Also, what Ass_Kraken said. There's not a chance in the world I'd want to associate myself with a bunch of mindless, prepubescent, backside-licking fanbois (which is how I view the majority of the Chief's followers).


It is optional, but if we say to happen upon your place of residence and you aren't paying?
You get the drift.

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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby Devourer_of_Pancakes » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:14 am

KingdomOfOne wrote:
Devourer_of_Pancakes wrote:They're not really wrong, imho. However, I don't see myself signing this treaty. I value my independence as a hermit and do not want to commit to supporting a faction.

If this treaty was brought as a completely optional service, where you can choose to pay up and fall under the tribe's protection (or choose not to and fend for yourself), I might think differently about it. It's honestly not a bad deal (assuming they live up to their end of the bargain).

Also, what Ass_Kraken said. There's not a chance in the world I'd want to associate myself with a bunch of mindless, prepubescent, backside-licking fanbois (which is how I view the majority of the Chief's followers).


It is optional
, but if we say to happen upon your place of residence and you aren't paying?
You get the drift.

Sounds like you haven't trained literacy. Try reading the treaty post. Hint:

Chief PeePooKaKa wrote:Now I know what you are thinking. You are thinking "Hey, do we even have the capacity to sign sophisticated contracts? I thought we were simply the property of the Tribe". And yes that is true.


However, the third part of my post is the real deal-breaker. To associate myself with people like you would be a serious humiliation, not befitting an intelligent individual such as myself, and no hermitage - even when it's a luxury holiday resort like My First Claim(tm) - is worth that.
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby Mereni » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:20 am

Ass_Kraken wrote:
Mereni wrote:
Staxjax hasn't even mentioned racism.


Okay, then whatever he meant by saying they constantly **** on the Native American race, I haven't seen that happening.


My personal favorite was the one where he implied that all Native American's believed that the universe was shat (? *****? Shatted?) out of an alligator's *******.


LOL, never saw that post. I know that the Egyptians believe that the earth was created when the crocodile Sobek laid an egg. Maybe there's a similar Native American legend, but I'm not conversant enough in creation myths to confirm or deny if any tribe or nation has a myth like that.
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby TotalyMoo » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:36 pm

Why is anyone wrong? Because opinions differ. It's easy as that in my eyes.

The MM Tribe have their views on how they want Salem to play, others have their own ideas. Difference in ideology cause conflicts and both sides consider the others to be "wrong".

If I was Jorb I'd write something really clever about it, but I'm not... So you'll all have to imagine a long and well written rant here instead.

From my POV the MM Tribe want Plymouth to play out like some kind of feudal kingdom with them on top and the treaty signers as their vassals. The obvious problem I can see is that it's a forced rule with no support from the other factions. Paying the tribe generally seems to be considered the lesser of evils. For feudalism to work you need some kind of common interest to protect as in times of war you need the help of your people - even if they dislike you. And to be blunt I don't think the tribe would enough support from outsiders if they started crumbling... So the only way for them to stay on top is to be the incontestably biggest faction until the peoples start liking them or they fall.

It's kind of a working thought but far from how I'd want it (extremely liberal with a common interest in peace due to its benefits to everyone).

Anyways. The tribe is neither right nor wrong. They are merely a large faction with a lot of controversial opinions which has resulted in many Plymouth players contesting those opinions.
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby Kerryann » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:29 pm

I don't think they are 'wrong' - it's a pretty big achievement to dominate the game. That being said, they can only dominate if people 'let' them dominate. I've already stated elsewhere that I was surprised there was so little resistance and that they achieved dominance so quickly. It's a bit disappointing.

I may not agree with the way he goes about things or the killing of newbs and I would never give in to forced leadership - but there's no denying he makes the forums, both with the drama and his way of posting, which I find extremely funny on the whole, even when the subject is one I disagree with. (I quite often feel guilty for laughing.)

I wasn't aware he got banned again - what for this time?
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Re: Why is MM Tribe Wrong?

Postby TotalyMoo » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:50 pm

Kerryann wrote:I wasn't aware he got banned again - what for this time?


Harassing the CM of Topia.
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