Lets talk turkey (food discussion)

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Re: Lets talk turkey (food discussion)

Postby saltmummy » Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:31 am

Well I've got this food thread why not...
A reveiw for "Organic Valley Organic Fuel" milk.

Basically, it's milk, BUT NOT JUST ANY MILK! It is billed as "HIGH PROTEIN MILK SHAKE! POWERED BY ORGANIC MILK!!!" First off, lets start with label fallacies. I wasn't aware there was any such thing as "inorganic" milk. I guess the milk I've been drinking is metallic in nature. Also, "NON-GMOs!" That's stupid. All things we eat are GMOs. Have you ever seen a wild strawberry? Guess what, wild strawberries aren't as big as the store bought ones. They're tiny, about as big as a molar. Everything we eat has been genetically modified over ages of selective breeding. My beagle has been genetically modified to be a beagle instead of whatever canine animal was used to create it. So the concept of GMO free is stupid in the extreme. What GMO really means is that they skipped a thousand years of cow *****. The ingredients list is also self righteous in the extreme. "Organic filtered skim milk" and "Organic fair trade unrefined cane sugar." Really? I had to look up what "fair trade" meant and what it entailed for the quality of the product. Fun fact, it doesn't. I just means a "fair price" was paid for the ingredient. Why the hell that even matters is beyond me. Why should I care what was paid for the sugar? Basically, the label "fair trade" is there to show why you are paying so much more for just ordinary milk.

The label also contains a list of things the milk always is and never is. the always list is about what you'd expect. The never list, apart from having "GMO" on it, also has an item that worries me. Antibiotics. Antibiotics are their to ensure the cow the milk came from is healthy, or to ensure that nasty bowel melting diseases don't make their way into you through your milk and vegetables. Taking the antibiotics out of the equation puts your customer base at risk. We have E-Coli outbreaks in things like organic (non-plastic) spinach because these "organic" farms insist on not treating their products to ensure peoples safety. Right away, it makes me a bit leery. Another thing on the list is "chalky powders." No one wants chalk in their milk, so that's nice. One more quick thing from the label, this milk claims to contain twice as much calcium as regular milk, which when comparing the labels, is true. What it doesn't say though is that it contains half of the iron, vitamin A, vitamin C, Vitamin D, and iron of regular milk while also containing twice as much fats, sugars, sodium, cholesterol, and carbs. The protein in the drink is also massive at 52% of the daily recommended amount.

The drink itself.
Disgusting. Like very thick water. The part where it said the drink wasn't chalky was a lie. The taste is like drinking water which was poured into a glass that previously had chocolate milk in it. As I said, it's thick. Thick like gravy. Even if the flavor was fine, the experience of drinking the "milk" is very unpleasant.

I found this product in a box of stuff from the food bank which was handed over to feed my turkies. I would not give it to my turkies, nor would I buy it normally. At the store a bottle of this garbage costs about 6$ for 11 fluid ounces, a bit smaller than a bottle of water. For 3$ you can get a gallon of normal chocolate milk, which is a better product in the long run.
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Re: Lets talk turkey (food discussion)

Postby TotalyMeow » Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:13 am

Yeah, that sounds pretty gross. They do labels like that because half the people who buy fad foods don't know what they're buying. They just look for buzz words. I bet it said it was 'gluten free' too, even though only wheat, barley, rye, and their hybrids have that particular protein.
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Re: Lets talk turkey (food discussion)

Postby saltmummy » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:43 am

TotalyMeow wrote:They just look for buzz words. I bet it said it was 'gluten free' too, even though only wheat, barley, rye, and their hybrids have that particular protein.

You know, I didn't think about it but it rang a bell so I went and pulled the bottle out of the trash. Sure enough, you are correct. Right next to "lactose free." and "real milk."
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Re: Lets talk turkey (food discussion)

Postby Kandarim » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:21 am

How can real milk be lactose free? :roll:

saltmummy wrote:The label also contains a list of things the milk always is and never is. the always list is about what you'd expect. The never list, apart from having "GMO" on it, also has an item that worries me. Antibiotics. Antibiotics are their to ensure the cow the milk came from is healthy, or to ensure that nasty bowel melting diseases don't make their way into you through your milk and vegetables. Taking the antibiotics out of the equation puts your customer base at risk. We have E-Coli outbreaks in things like organic (non-plastic) spinach because these "organic" farms insist on not treating their products to ensure peoples safety.


This is actually a good thing. The milk is tested before being used in human consumption, so you're generally safe from that side (worst case scenario, the herder loses a milk run, which is why it tends to be more expensive). Cattle bacteria growing resistant to the widespread antibiotic use is a major upcoming issue and will likely mean that sometime in the (near) future the use of antibiotics will matter very little, as even the more wide-spectrum variants will fail to keep bacteria in check.
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Re: Lets talk turkey (food discussion)

Postby saltmummy » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:27 am

Kandarim wrote:How can real milk be lactose free? :roll:

saltmummy wrote:The label also contains a list of things the milk always is and never is. the always list is about what you'd expect. The never list, apart from having "GMO" on it, also has an item that worries me. Antibiotics. Antibiotics are their to ensure the cow the milk came from is healthy, or to ensure that nasty bowel melting diseases don't make their way into you through your milk and vegetables. Taking the antibiotics out of the equation puts your customer base at risk. We have E-Coli outbreaks in things like organic (non-plastic) spinach because these "organic" farms insist on not treating their products to ensure peoples safety.


This is actually a good thing. The milk is tested before being used in human consumption, so you're generally safe from that side (worst case scenario, the herder loses a milk run, which is why it tends to be more expensive). Cattle bacteria growing resistant to the widespread antibiotic use is a major upcoming issue and will likely mean that sometime in the (near) future the use of antibiotics will matter very little, as even the more wide-spectrum variants will fail to keep bacteria in check.


Unfortunately, you are right. Eventually they will stop working. I wonder what could be done about that.
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