this weeks apple shipment

[Tamasin]

not very stuck though, just move onto v claim and ko self, respawn.

[Darwoth]

maybe if you have poor security with bad pclaim coverage and all your gates wide open!

[jesi]

So Alloin you are saying if I log out in a v-claim without permissions - (my char stays around visible of course) as soon as I log back in I am able to destroy gates, walls, etc... without leaving any scents?

No, you can however log back in on a chair that is taken inside, you will leave scents though & get stuck inside said claim

Additionally, there is a smart use of game mechanics which allows you to trespass without leaving scents or putting crimes on under certain circumstances. (not used in this case)

log back in on a "chair" or on a "char"?

BTW happy Salem anniversary

[alloin]

So Alloin you are saying if I log out in a v-claim without permissions - (my char stays around visible of course) as soon as I log back in I am able to destroy gates, walls, etc... without leaving any scents?

No, you can however log back in on a chair that is taken inside, you will leave scents though & get stuck inside said claim

Additionally, there is a smart use of game mechanics which allows you to trespass without leaving scents or putting crimes on under certain circumstances. (not used in this case)

log back in on a "chair" or on a "char"?

BTW happy Salem anniversary

Char on chair !

1. Alt on chair, no permission whatsoever


2. Log out

3. For some obscure reason, you take the chair inside



4. Log back into the alt


5. Happy killing !


If that village happens to have the inner gates open, things happen like what darwoth did


This is a bug in my opinion, because normally you would get this message:

[Darwoth]

[Darwoth]

basically alloin is saying that it is not methuzelah, ammaboss or his brothers fault that......

1> they left every single gate in their town open, INCLUDING their VAULT with scents out all over the game world no less.

2> had terrible claim and brazier coverage.

3> decided to take a random and spontaneous collection of 500 silver chairs inside their base that myseriously appeared outside one night inside.



nevermind the tactic could have been prevented with simple security counter measures that most newbies take, but then we look at the fact one must usually sacrifice a murderer of their own IF it works which is not guranteed, then we go into the numerous ways to counter said tactic.

[alloin]

basically alloin is saying that it is not methuzelah, ammaboss or his brothers fault that......

1> they left every single gate in their town open, INCLUDING their VAULT with scents out all over the game world no less.

2> had terrible claim and brazier coverage.

3> decided to take a random and spontaneous collection of 500 silver chairs inside their base that myseriously appeared outside one night inside.



nevermind the tactic could have been prevented with simple security counter measures that most newbies take, but then we look at the fact one must usually sacrifice a murderer of their own IF it works which is not guranteed, then we go into the numerous ways to counter said tactic.

No, you're totally right on these points ! I cannot argue about that !

I actually would love to have trojan horses ingame, but not in the form of a chair

Using your possible loss of an alt character as an excuse don't right the wrongs, a murder alt is made in a couple hours, if not less.

I do however mean that the way used to get inside is a bug!

[Darwoth]

no more of a bug than party invites, stun locks, splash damage, brazier padding, brazier doubling or any of a thousand other common knowledge tricks and tactics, that is what makes the game unique and fun. don't be pissy at me simply because your friends fell victim to it.

[Potjeh]

Why are you able to destroy those lean-tos without a waste claim?

[Darwoth]

actually if i steal a chair with a lunatic sleeping in it and put said chair next to my bed i have nobody but myself to blame if i wake up with an axe in my face, this is the in game equivalent.