Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Goodman12 » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:55 pm

Kralith wrote:The only thing that i do not understand, Goodman, why you have the right to decide if someone is allowed to raiding or not?

You are not the police of the server.
You are also a criminal.

What is on you that makes you "better" than other?

Okay, okay... i think every inhabitant of Providence will agree with me, that every criminal is a bad guy.
It does not matter if they called self Goodman, Irving, Darwoth or Bunnyfunny!

And every Criminal should know that he in cause of his criminal act can die.
There is no good or bad criminal, there is just a criminal.

Sometimes all of you should breathe deep before they post insults and harassments.

Really, this is a game!
And we should play a honest and fair game with each other.

We kill us, we love us, we drink together a beer if we meet up inRL.

The key is friendly enmity.

I try my best not to insult anyone on the forum but if you say something stupid i'll point out how retarded you are.... and I'm sure many will do that to me
I am not a criminal :D I'm a Kristian who raid/kill criminals and anyone who I might suspect to be a criminal :D
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Kralith » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:01 am

Thats what i mean, you insult indeed.
Because that what you do with me is an insult if you call me retarded.
I'm sure you would not do this if you meet me inRL.
But in anonymous internet you are not shy and do offensive things.

And it is not true, that Kristians are not criminals, because a Kristian had raided my friendly little active base in the beginning of the year. I had never do bad things and was friendly to every people.
Tell me how this fit into a non criminal sense if your kristians do such things?
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Goodman12 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:12 am

Kralith wrote:Thats what i mean, you insult indeed.
Because that what you do with me is an insult if you call me retarded.
I'm sure you would not do this if you meet me inRL.
But in anonymous internet you are not shy and do offensive things.

Irl or not if someone say multiple stupid things I'll tell them they are retarded straight up.
And it is not true, that Kristians are not criminals, because a Kristian had raided my friendly little active base in the beginning of the year. I had never do bad things and was friendly to every people.
Tell me how this fit into a non criminal sense if your kristians do such things?

Goodman12 wrote:I'm a Kristian who raid/kill criminals and anyone who I might suspect to be a criminal :D
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Kralith » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:17 am

Goodman12 wrote:I'm a Kristian who raid/kill criminals and anyone who I might suspect to be a criminal


This makes it not more true that you are a good guy.

It is like i would go with a pumpgun through a city and kill every people around you only because it could possible be a criminal.
Thats quite stupid!

If you kill or raid innocent people, then you are nothing else than a normal criminal like others!

Be honest and say that you do it only to have fun.
Then it would be the first true words from you.
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Dallane » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:22 am

Kralith wrote:Thats quite stupid!

If you kill or raid innocent people, then you are nothing else than a normal criminal like others!

Be honest and say that you do it only to have fun.
Then it would be the first true words from you.


You know whats really stupid?

Not knowing you are playing a sandbox and being a criminal has a different meaning from player to player. Stop trying to argue a dumb point, its a sandbox game where the players make the rules and lore.
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Heffernan » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:27 am

Dallane wrote:
Kralith wrote:Thats quite stupid!

If you kill or raid innocent people, then you are nothing else than a normal criminal like others!

Be honest and say that you do it only to have fun.
Then it would be the first true words from you.


You know whats really stupid?

Not knowing you are playing a sandbox and being a criminal has a different meaning from player to player. Stop trying to argue a dumb point, its a sandbox game where the players make the rules and lore.


and the players all made the lore that KKK are retarded.

Judaism wrote:They're just a bunch of racists and morons, who think insulting us is cool.


i think i oversaw that earlier, but did the guy who named there group after the Ku Klux Klan just call me a racist?
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Judaism » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:33 am

Heffernan wrote:i think i oversaw that earlier, but did the guy who named there group after the Ku Klux Klan just call me a racist?


Yes, you are clearly a racist. First of all, our group is not called that. Secondly, I did not vote for our current name, a majority did. I must say that I very much like all the hate and am very glad with the name now.
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Kralith » Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:37 am

Dallane wrote:
You know whats really stupid?

Not knowing you are playing a sandbox and being a criminal has a different meaning from player to player. Stop trying to argue a dumb point, its a sandbox game where the players make the rules and lore.


Oh Dallane i know it.
This is the cause i play this game.

I only don't like people who are not honest.
You can make a lore by your own... but you have still to accept that other do it like you. Because its a sandbox game.

And creating a own lore or shape a variable world does not mean, that the player should start to be bad to each other.
This begins at the point "live and let live" and not ended to insult people because they have dark skin inRL. (like in this Chatlog that Juda has posted).

I know the confines become blurred between ingame lore and player to player acts.
But we should always look not to let drerail it.

I know its the HoB... and its for ingame politics... but i see too often things close to the limit.
And if i comment it, then it is not the right way to call me dumb or retarded.
I told it as a player not as my character ingame. So it should take it as it is.

So... before it derail more, i will stop to put in real thinkings into HoB and ingame politics. ;)
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Goodman12 » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:19 am

Dallane wrote:Not knowing you are playing a sandbox and being a criminal has a different meaning from player to player. Stop trying to argue a dumb point, its a sandbox game where the players make the rules and lore.

At least someone gets it
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Re: Kind Karing Kristians - Justification Thread

Postby Trismegistus » Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:24 am

I would like to comment on all this "you are a criminal, how dare you tell me to not be a criminal" point that some people post and the Kralith, Goodman, Dallane exchange of ideas. When I see KKK posts of "We have brought justice to this criminal", I read it as "We had some fun recently. Here ye Here ye. Read all about it" or "Here's something that we post so that it will benefit our group's goals AKA Propaganda". The only thing that would make me judge the action in the good/bad direction is whether I can benefit or be hurt from either side's win or loss.

I think the key here is to separate a game from a real life where hurt can lead to the end of existence of a human. If you can't move on from the loss or insult of something in a game, I can't have enough sympathy for you to rage for injustice. Roleplaying that, however, is different. If you want to play "Crime is evil", then go for it. I know that KKK cares most for the survival of KKK, and that's the context I see their posts in.

As far as these insults versus friendly enmity thing, I find it hard to judge what is what. I would like to believe that it is all propaganda on all sides and people know what's what. I can judge that some sides know this more than others, but it is hard for me to see where the line is drawn for others. Sometimes I read it as serious, and think to myself, "Do you not understand what is going on here? Be moar creative!" Then again, maybe I'm crazy.
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