It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby LOMS » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:40 am

Claeyt wrote: It is impossible to to place a Protected Vclaim Donuted TbF or TbC against that island


Well, I haven't seen the island yet, but it's true that player cannot place boundry stone on lilypad.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Claeyt » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:41 am

Nektaris wrote:You can stop the cycle by destroying the TbC.

Then he would just build another TbC. This would start a TbC loop until he was able to summon. Like L33LEE pointed out there's no way out of the Loop. The end result is now always: Darwoth destroy's townbell and takes town.

For those not understanding this.

Darwoth builds donuted TbF against Town > Town builds TbF against donuted TbF > Town basher breaks donuted TbF > Darwoth rebuilds and puts up donuted TbC repeat until > Darwoth summons and kills basher > Darwoth rebuilds donuted TbF > Darwoth breaks into Town which is no longer able to bash TbF after building as many bashers as they can and he destroys there bell and takes the town whole.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Dallane » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:43 am

Claeyt wrote:
Nektaris wrote:You can stop the cycle by destroying the TbC.

Then he would just build another TbC. This would start a TbC loop until he was able to summon. Like L33LEE pointed out there's no way out of the Loop. The end result is now always: Darwoth destroy's townbell and takes town.

For those not understanding this.

Darwoth builds donuted TbF against Town > Town builds TbF against donuted TbF > Town basher breaks donuted TbF > Darwoth rebuilds and puts up donuted TbC repeat until > Darwoth summons and kills basher > Darwoth rebuilds donuted TbF > Darwoth breaks into Town which is no longer able to bash TbF after building as many bashers as they can and he destroys there bell and takes the town whole.



You are extremely clueless on how this game works. I'm very close to locking this unless you can say something correctly.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Darwoth » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:45 am

Claeyt wrote:
Nektaris wrote:You can stop the cycle by destroying the TbC.

Then he would just build another TbC. This would start a TbC loop until he was able to summon. Like L33LEE pointed out there's no way out of the Loop. The end result is now always: Darwoth destroy's townbell and takes town.

For those not understanding this.

Darwoth builds donuted TbF against Town > Town builds TbF against donuted TbF > Town basher breaks donuted TbF > Darwoth rebuilds and puts up donuted TbC repeat until > Darwoth summons and kills basher > Darwoth rebuilds donuted TbF > Darwoth breaks into Town which is no longer able to bash TbF after building as many bashers as they can and he destroys there bell and takes the town whole.


you forgot the part about you having no idea what your talking about, how raid mechanics work or what a viable strategy would be in any scenario at all.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Claeyt » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:47 am

Darwoth wrote:aside from the fact that as usual everything you said is wrong and off base (which is why you consider arcadia to be "top players"

there are three separate ways to get at me, weaknesses i intentionally designed into the vault so there would be no question to its legality, it is also next to providence to encourage and make it easy for a gaggle of zergs to take a shot and entertain me for the afternoon.

other than to point out that you are a retard i will not waste much time on you/this thread as it is simply going to turn into another collection of ***** ***** about *darts* *taxes* *alts* border stones* *tobacco* and anything else i might utilize this week.

yes my vault gives me a tactical advantage, that was the point in making it. just like my 1750 stat fighter gives me an advantage when whoopin your ass and was the point in making it.

Again, like I said above. I have no idea what happened at Arcadia supposedly. I was talking about L33's town.

I don't know how you can't consider them top players tho'. We're talking about Pilgrim (top play time spot), Wanderer (3rd play time spot), Sipo highest Tailor I know of and Latikai who built the client you're using right now in-game.

Anyways back to the Island:

Like I said, it's unfair and game breaking that you have the tactical advantage of the Island. It would be unfair if KKK had it or anyone else. That's why I think it should be removed. As for taking it Dallane, it can no longer be taken without being able to place a TbF against it and since you can't build a donuted TbF against it it's an unfair advantage to Darwoth because he doesn't have to face a donuted TbF.

Dallane wrote:You are extremely clueless on how this game works. I'm very close to locking this unless you can say something correctly.


Darwoth wrote:you forgot the part about you having no idea what your talking about, how raid mechanics work or what a viable strategy would be in any scenario at all.


Again, point out where I'm wrong please. These are the mechanics that the Wiki uses and the mechanics that I've tested and THINK that I know. If I'm wrong then prove me wrong here and I'll say "I'M WRONG" and change it.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Dallane » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:50 am

Claeyt wrote: As for taking it Dallane, it can no longer be taken without being able to place a TbF against it and since you can't build a donuted TbF against it it's an unfair advantage to Darwoth.


No it can still be taken. No one is willing to spend the time doing it. Darwoth is ONE person. All you need to do is get more than 1 person and you have a much larger advantage against him than any WC ever could.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Procne » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:52 am

Wasn't dev island built by devs and we weren't supposed to build anything on it? I remember it was stated that anything built there may be torched by devs
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Dallane » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:53 am

Procne wrote:Wasn't dev island built by devs and we weren't supposed to build anything on it? I remember it was stated that anything built there may be torched by devs


Yeah that was changed a long time ago.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Claeyt » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:57 am

Dallane wrote:
Claeyt wrote: As for taking it Dallane, it can no longer be taken without being able to place a TbF against it and since you can't build a donuted TbF against it it's an unfair advantage to Darwoth.


No it can still be taken. No one is willing to spend the time doing it. Darwoth is ONE person. All you need to do is get more than 1 person and you have a very larger advantage against him than any WC ever could.


Okay, I see the problem here. We have a misunderstanding. I never said that it couldn't ever be taken, I'll go back and if I did I'll change it. I said that it couldn't be taken without having to stand there and protect the TbC or TbF. There's no way to donut the TbF or TbC against it. Thus yes, a zerg of large enough characters could take it if they're willing to stand there for awhile.

MY POINT is that Darwoth doesn't have to do that to take any other town that I've seen on the server. He's able to just build a Vclaimed donuted TbC or TbF against them and attack them whenever he wants and they have no defense against it. He has this special Island that allows him to not have to face a donuted TbF or TbC against his criminal alts. It's unfair and game breaking in my opinion.
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Re: It's time to Nuke 'Dev Island'.

Postby Darwoth » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:57 am

latikais client is a piece of ****, have never used it and would have died a dozen times over if i had.

sipo is a newb that would do **** like stream picking up old logs on the ground for 30 minutes instead of cutting some blocks, or better yet pops into town with less than 10% bb, takes a single sip of tea, had no wallpaper in his house on and on i probably have as high or close tailoring as he does and i have let hundreds of millions of points of inspiration "rot" on my character due to not studying anything for weeks on end.

pilgrim is a retard and a raging jackass, just because he spent 221 days in game of the last year does not mean he is a knowledgeable player it means he needs to stop ***** in a bedpan.

wanderer i dont know, pretty sure she is "carpe diem" that assisted the kzerg when **** claiming my town but she is now dead and on the top ten scalp list currently.


out of the group aztec was probably the least retarded of them all.

oh, and the entire "indestructable" layout of arcadia had so many holes in the defense (again, not a "top player" trait) that a typical newbie hermit camp is on par with the difficulty required, the biggest issue was the sheer number of walls to break through.
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