Chrumps wrote:ShadowTani wrote: Getting free PP however, let's just say people don't like nice things around here.
But they do get free PP in the tutorial, just after giving a Tumbleweed to Nubs.
It probably dates back to H&H character creation room, where learning the basic skill with exp points given for free was a part of game introduction.
Don't make me start typing in blue please. It should been obvious I was making a sarcastic point.
But I understand having alt-speed-bumpers is of no concern to you. But I personally do care and prefer a more moderate solution like the one Otis proposed and make the tutorial a choice whether you have the silver or not. Alternatively I'd go for the opposite extreme of what you're proposing and say that the devs should remove the option to skip the tutorial entirely and force everyone to go through the tutorial. But the moderate solution usually turns out to be the best solution.
Both being returning players that had silver from when they played earlier, which is actually not a common occurrence, just like nubs buying silver before they even tried the the game is a rare occurrence. You make the issue seem way bigger than it really is. And take note that one of these people is Otis, who is the same Otis who proposed the solution I'm supporting.
Zennoya wrote:About wiki -> salem-wiki.com doesnt work everywhere and dissappear from time to time. Salemwiki.info is not so up to date. Also You need at least some basic knowledge know what to search. Also if You search for Childish Things on wiki You get
"This skill is the first skill you learn while in the tutorial. It opens up the pathways to all other skills."
You're right the wiki situation is a bit tricky at the moment; the salem-wiki is obsolete now as the tribe-wiki have now been moved to a new server and thesalemwiki.com is now the correct destination; dunno if the various clients been updated accordingly, but it's possible they haven't (can't check atm). However, salemwiki.info have been overhauled a lot over the last couple of months and things like the skills and such is now fully updated. Still, despite a bit of disorder currently, it's not impossible to find either of these wiki's given a bit of effort.
Personally it would been most logical for for me to go to the Perennial Philosophy page and clicked through the items on the list in search for something suitable to study. But I don't necessarily believe what's logical or even obvious for me is so for someone else; thus I've added a note to Childish Things as a damage control of sorts:
Click to Check Updated PageIf you have other suggestions for making the wiki more user-friendly, please let me know.
Zennoya wrote:About forum -> Maybe because most people on the forum treat newbies as trash or retards, that are so stupid, that cant figure it out themselves, and if so, its better if they stop playing at all ?
I can understand if people may get demotivated if they base their impression on the forum overall. However, in the help section specifically people actually try to be helpful and friendly. The community isn't entirely rotten to the core. Yet.