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Market Place

Postby xsarfax » Fri May 13, 2016 5:59 pm

"Market Place" - "Auction hous" //
Everyone know what i am mean. One building in which weveryone can put our items to sell or buy. With tax 35% obviously... (but 25% would be beter maybe.... for players ¦] )
We have stall system - it isnt bad, but not perfect one....
We could erase stalls and add one market place, or just lower stalls taxes to 25%, and add market place with 35%.
I mean, increase possibilitys to trade.
Now we can use the most harder way - using barrels
Easier (for "lazy" one) way - stalls ( - 35% taxes for making our lives esier a bit )

But i really feel, that in Salem this stupid marker place is needed.
Why:
1) Some players could havent time for stay log in whole day and trading. Also i mean here about, in Salem we can find ppl from all world. From America, Europe, Africa( o.O ), Australia or even Asia. (and not all can have stall, when we have only 100 ? (i didnt count) - its only like for 50 ppl... for ex. i have 3 ¦] (i could for ex. try to buy 50 stalls, why not)
2)Better availability to buy something - more spent cash. More cash is ate by tax system ¦]
3)Think yourself ¦]

Dont say to me, that this is unreal...even in middle ages should be something like this - like for ex. Land lord selling and buying grain (its person, but idea is important)
Dont say its hard to put into game.... Its can be time-consuming, but its possible to add
Dont say its sandbox and we can just use barrels. Sandbox mean, you can do whatever you want... if game give you possibilty
Dont say i am stupid troll, and i just want this only for me :?
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Re: Market Place

Postby DarkNacht » Fri May 13, 2016 9:02 pm

If you want to auction **** off you don't need automation just do it yourself, and if you don't have the time to be a merchant find someone that does.
Or maybe we should automate crop harvest and mining for those that can't be bothered to do it them selves?
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Re: Market Place

Postby Shrapnel » Fri May 13, 2016 10:37 pm

Auction house has always been a topic, and it gets shut down every time.

Though I do agree that stalls need some change. Inactive stalls have never changed ownership.. Etc.
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Re: Market Place

Postby xsarfax » Fri May 13, 2016 11:46 pm

DarkNacht wrote:If you want to auction **** off you don't need automation just do it yourself, and if you don't have the time to be a merchant find someone that does.
Or maybe we should automate crop harvest and mining for those that can't be bothered to do it them selves?


Not really a auction, but one "stall" for everyone.
Personally i do my trades, and i use stall for selling. Not all is worth of time to sell using barrel.
And stall are like automate trading, and no one have problem with that... Idea is just make stall system avaible to everyone - ex. with bigger taxes, but avaible for everyone.
I dont think it should be automatic, you need to transport it, make price, wait for someone buy it, pay taxes.

I really like barrel trading. Buying and pay to ppl for even a rabbit. It make fun. But ex. selling high iron ? For ex. If i will have 100% iron, everyone will want buy it, then 100 ppl will want buy it - its 2k/ea, so everyone want only 2 bars. I do it using barrel trading ? NOPE. i put it into stall ¦]
Game should be friendly for players. Game is created for players :roll:
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Re: Market Place

Postby Kralith » Fri May 13, 2016 11:53 pm

Shrapnel wrote: Inactive stalls have never changed ownership.. Etc.


That is not true.
Last months many stalls have changed their owner.

You have a max. amount of Money that a stall can store.
And JC has increased the weekly tax for all inactive stalls earlier in the year.
So many of them was running out and available again.
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Re: Market Place

Postby DarkNacht » Sat May 14, 2016 12:17 am

xsarfax wrote:And stall are like automate trading, and no one have problem with that...

Incorrect many people were glad the stalls initially had not been brought over from the old worlds and disliked that they were eventually added to the new. Stalls are already too much automation.
The game should allow players to do what they want, but not to play the game for the players.
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Re: Market Place

Postby xsarfax » Sat May 14, 2016 1:26 am

DarkNacht wrote:
xsarfax wrote:And stall are like automate trading, and no one have problem with that...

Incorrect many people were glad the stalls initially had not been brought over from the old worlds and disliked that they were eventually added to the new. Stalls are already too much automation.
The game should allow players to do what they want, but not to play the game for the players.


"Game should allow players to do what they want, but only what game will allow you to do" if this have any sense
-Barrel trading - you need to use forum for even normal trading. - Oh, you say that you can stay in town and spam, what you want trade ? Pretty funny, i see only Pope in town, when he want trade something.... but he use forum, so oh ¦]
-Stall tradings.. we know this isnt perfect solution bla bla bla
I look at this as emmm "not hardcore weird player". I think game should have better trade system... maybe even now, we can do it like this without greater problems. its "500" players right now. What if wil be 20´000... many many ppl in town

I mean, if you pay tax, from every sold item - its like pay to NPC for help with sell item tralala
I just cant understand, why some ppl want trading ONLY in so hardcore way :P
I just want see forum and providence city if game will have more than 2k activ players or even more like 20k- its will be completly chaos .D

Looking at "normal" mmorpg(beacouse Salem is 2.5D mmorpg, right? ), we have 3 ways to trade
-Market place
-Private shops
- " safe barrel trading"
Salem dont have even one from this ¦] Trading is the only thing, that sould be more automatic/more easly to do. Every another aspect of game is just good, make fun.

Ps. whatever its could be fun see how new noobs will could sell ex. nuts or stones or branches (oh, new player collect everythink), but new players mostly dont use forum(barrel trading) or stalls, so
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Re: Market Place

Postby Dallane » Sat May 14, 2016 2:07 am

Terrible. There have been MANY threads with JC saying it will NEVER happen. Stalls and barrels are here to stay.
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Re: Market Place

Postby Silverfish » Sat May 14, 2016 9:23 am

Never euw. Its good now :)
Due to my trade thread, stupid stalls and barrel trading i got:
- many nice ppl asking bout things to trade - what is nice, even for the sedimentary hermit
- free cookies from stall owners wandering around their stalls and encouraging me to buy more ;)
- 3-5 ppl i can always sell my goods to or buy medium purity things
- weekly treasures in random city barrels :D

Thanks to forum search i found:
- job for my brother
- ppl I can spam ingame with my noob questions :D

The OP forgot about some rules:
- dont produce thing u cant use
- learn how to use byproducts
- go explore the world instead of making another resource overflow in ur base
- and MAKE DAMN CONTACTS

I've been playing a year ago with one camp-mate its been a real pain, coz we havent even try to communicate with the outer word. Now its not a heaven but dealing with the community changed my perspective for good.
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Re: Market Place

Postby DarkNacht » Sat May 14, 2016 7:41 pm

xsarfax wrote:-Barrel trading - you need to use forum for even normal trading. - Oh, you say that you can stay in town and spam, what you want trade ? Pretty funny, i see only Pope in town, when he want trade something.... but he use forum, so oh ¦]
How is using trade threads a problem? The forum is an integral part of the the game.
If you don't want to be a merchant just find one of the many people that do and sell them your ****, you don't need an NPC for this when there are plenty of PCs willing to do the job.
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