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Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:43 pm
by Heffernan
Hello,

how about changing the stalls so you are able to also buy things at your own stalls as seller?

edit: also it be nice if we could choose to have names on stalls (by own choice) so we know who to contact

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:37 pm
by RonPaulFTW
I was hoping we would be able to buy stuff from our stalls too. His majesty should of course also get a tax here as well.

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:39 pm
by LOMS
Heffernan wrote:Hello,

how about changing the stalls so you are able to also buy things at your own stalls as seller?

edit: also it be nice if we could choose to have names on stalls (by own choice) so we know who to contact


I've just realized that current brand old stall mechanic has a good abuse-prevention mechanics - you can't use your stall as free, secured storage. Everything you put on your stall must be sold, no exceptions, even if you want to withdraw your own items from your stall - you MUST buy it and lost some money for the taxes.

But if you have an ability to buy things, you can SECURELY store stolen (or not) goods on your stall, buying them from your partners in crime for 1 silver/each. Therefore, you can not just allow buying on TOWN stalls. That's sad.

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:04 pm
by Eivind
LOMS wrote:But if you have an ability to buy things, you can SECURELY store stolen (or not) goods on your stall, buying them from your partners in crime for 1 silver/each. Therefore, you can not just allow buying on TOWN stalls. That's sad

There might be tax for storing bought goods, say, 5s/day/item. If you can't manage upkeep His majesty can just confiscate all your goods. ¦]

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:44 pm
by GrimF4ilure
You can buy from your own stall... I'm positive I did this morning when I was playing around.

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:39 pm
by LOMS
Eivind wrote:
LOMS wrote:But if you have an ability to buy things, you can SECURELY store stolen (or not) goods on your stall, buying them from your partners in crime for 1 silver/each. Therefore, you can not just allow buying on TOWN stalls. That's sad

There might be tax for storing bought goods, say, 5s/day/item. If you can't manage upkeep His majesty can just confiscate all your goods. ¦]


5s/day is not too much for full slotted Admiral uniform or another expencive something. For example, using current stand as secure storage, you will be forced to set a price from 2000 to 5000 of silver. That's 700-1750 pure silver waste.
With all abuse-preventive things buying up stand is not something-simple-ready-to-be-implemented-tomorrow.

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:57 pm
by Eivind
LOMS wrote:5s/day is not too much for full slotted Admiral uniform or another expencive something.

Yes, but you can use alt vault for free.

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:41 pm
by JohnCarver
We investigated "buy" mechanics. It proved to be a bit too cumbersome. Primarily in how the stall would know what you are willing to buy. There is no current and easy solution for simply typing an item name into the game and having the option populate especially with some of the item names not being overly obvious, and if you had to 'already have one' of an item to allow buying that seemed like a sub-standard approach.

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:40 am
by LOMS
Eivind wrote:
LOMS wrote:5s/day is not too much for full slotted Admiral uniform or another expencive something.

Yes, but you can use alt vault for free.

Of course. This is why I never catched the point with stall restrictions. But if they're fighting with sell-vaults, they definitely want or need to fight with buy-vaults, because if they dont - fighting with sell-vaults has no sense.

Re: Sell-Stalls

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 9:41 pm
by alagar
I have an better idea...REMOVE ALL STALLS.