Lard and Mortar

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Lard and Mortar

Postby Orcling » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:51 am

In Salem, Lard is being used as Mortar. I know I'm sort of slow in finding this out but I didn't particularly care about making a wall, I was busy with exploring all the new foods.
Lard HAS been used in Mortar, but its very ****** mortar. Its bad enough that lime is used for mortar, lime based mortar was one of the worst in history and extremely brittle. Now there are 2 reasons this rustles my jimmies big time, first is, lard being used in Mortar sounds incredibly retarded. The second one is that its ****** Mortar.
Now, you'll ask "But what else could've been used instead of lard that's also in the game?"
There's quite the easy answer for this. Eggs. Egg whites were used in making Mortar, around that time, and even in the 1900's still. A ton of eggs as a substitute for lard in making Brickwalls would not only result in better mortar, but also not require you to farm a thousand lard just to make a wall. Lard needed in enough other things already while Eggs are barely used for anything, and aren't nearly as hard to raise in the thousands.
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby Potjeh » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:14 am

Yeah, eggs would be better.
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby Darwoth » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:34 am

petty sure the entire point of using lard for mortar was so that you could not easily spam brick walls.
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby Orcling » Thu Sep 25, 2014 3:43 am

Darwoth wrote:petty sure the entire point of using lard for mortar was so that you could not easily spam brick walls.

Yeah, but using 1 lard for each section? You have to drop everything you're doing and just grind for lard for weeks just so you can complete one wall.

Not to mention the brick inspirationals you need, those aren't exactly commom either.
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby trungdle » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:24 am

Good point. Now let us propose to JC so he can add egg to the current recipe. ¦] ¦] ¦] ¦]
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby ImpalerWrG » Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:50 am

I'd always thought JC would have added some kind of slaked-lime mechanic, in which the lime is burnt in a kiln and then THAT gets turned into cement by mixing with water and Sand (finally a reason to be able to collect sand), that was the typical mortar of the time period.

While I can understand the motivation to use a rare-drop material in the wall, the choice of Lard sure seems rather unrealistic (the rare Bricks though I kinda like), a sufficiently slow and grindy process using non-random drops should have been devised, I was fully prepared for a bar of Iron to be needed per wall segment per the Haven Brick wall precedent.

I don't find eggs to be all that much better from a realism standpoint, when I hear eggs I think Tempera paints rather then mortars, while people could have physically done it the idea of walls build with egg mortar stretches the logistics of what pre-industrial people could have accomplished, or been willing to waste valuable food on such a massive scale.
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby RyanS77 » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:29 am

trungdle wrote:Good point. Now let us propose to JC so he can add egg to the current recipe. ¦] ¦] ¦] ¦]


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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby JohnCarver » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:52 am

Anything else you would also like to see in the recipe ¦]
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby Brego » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:11 am

water and turkey poo.
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Re: Lard and Mortar

Postby The_Trade_Wind » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:16 am

Make an entire mechanic out of making the mortar; such as a mixing station to produce mortar that is then put in buckets. Even add in a metal tool required to simply lay the brick. Otherwise people are simply slushing egg whites and lard against very nice bricks. Thus insulting said nice bricks.
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