[Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Nsuidara » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:37 pm

how many is good this http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Main_Page ? wiki
?
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Radiance » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:05 pm

Dunno, i use it all the time and now try to fix some outdated pages. Most of info is correct. And it works much-much faster and reliable than other wikies :)

UPD.
http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Flora_%26_Fauna Lack skills for animal husbandry on the left.
Busy bee lack description (i can provide it and screens, if needed).
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ShadowTani » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:52 am

Nsuidara wrote:how many is good this http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Main_Page ? wiki
?

The primary benefit is speed, but there's also a bit cleaner format in places. It being outdated is a lot less true than it used to be. Kralith made a huge impact towards that some months ago, and hopefully will be back editing eventually. I generally do a good chunk of updates per day myself and we got a couple of new ones contributing in addition now and then so it's slowly catching up. :3

Maybe you get an idea from the general worklog I gave a few pages ago how updated/outdated it is (though some of these points already been improved a bit since then):

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  • Skills are mostly up to date, but larger subjects such as agriculture etc. could need some polishing. Also, a few missing unlocks for early and late tier skills.
  • Have fixed about 50% of the artifacts to be up to date with the new template. (I will get to this to 100% as soon as we're able to make edits again).
  • Clothes are mostly up to date, but a few more clothing sets need to be given clothing set sections.
  • Food and Food groups is very outdated, some infoboxes are broken and lots of icons missing.
  • Inspirationals are in an overall good shape, though I've seen a few outdated ones that I will correct when given the chance.
  • Item shop packs and items need more work, but I was in the process of getting this sorted out.
  • Providence page need to be updated, overhauled and polished.
  • Many misc articles probably need to be updated, overhauled and polished, which is true for both wiki's.
  • More pages for crafts need to have the GameMenu template added; however, the info wiki is in better shape in this regard than the tribe wiki…
  • Many items is also missing weight, also true for both wiki's.

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Radiance wrote:http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Flora_%26_Fauna Lack skills for animal husbandry on the left.
Busy bee lack description (i can provide it and screens, if needed).

Was the same problem as the cloak page. So should be fixed now after I updated the page. This makes me think the autofill may have broken/frozen for several such pages after the database issue... Might have to do a larger check for this I think - but need to prioritize things on the backlog first.

And I dunno what you mean with Busy Bee? o.O
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Radiance » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:08 am

Busy bee - buff from drinking honey. There is no page for it, only red hyperlink. (http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Busy_Bee) It gives you bonus to maximum humours but, despite tea, decrease gradually, like Mushroom Poison buff. Honey can be used multiple times for better effect. I`ll add screens for wiki-page.

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Upd. Seems like 1l of honey (10 stacks) give ~10% of my humours.
Update 2. This page needs total rework, imo. Or at least update. http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Potable
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ShadowTani » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:03 am

Thank you, I've put up a temporary page for the busy bee for now. Going to upload the icon for it and possibly rephrase the text later.

And yeah, the potable page needs updating; However, the way it's currently done will make it end up with too many expensive parser function calls like what is the case for the tribe-wiki. In other words, after a certain point the icons will stop being shown, which is terribly ugly, and make things look incomplete. As such I would really like to find a different format solution. If you got any ideas, please feel free to come with suggestions. x3

One current idea is to compress those who have output A equal to their input in some way, will save a lot of icons with that. And maybe also do something resource conservative for the Beaming Proud Sunflower as well. Dunno how to do those things while still making it look tidy and nice yet though.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby pistolshrimp » Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:51 pm

ShadowTani wrote:And yeah, the potable page needs updating; However, the way it's currently done will make it end up with too many expensive parser function calls like what is the case for the tribe-wiki. In other words, after a certain point the icons will stop being shown, which is terribly ugly, and make things look incomplete. As such I would really like to find a different format solution. If you got any ideas, please feel free to come with suggestions. x3


Yeah, this is on my too do list as well.

Liking the Alternative Acquisitions template, I may adapt it to tribewiki.

Also I see the battle of spam has begun...
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby lachlaan » Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:21 pm

Good catch :p can't delete users or pages, but did a swift edit of the spam ads, replacing with an eloquent request to cease and desist <.< How did they even get a username approved? xD
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby pistolshrimp » Thu Jul 16, 2015 8:20 pm

lachlaan wrote:Good catch :p can't delete users or pages, but did a swift edit of the spam ads, replacing with an eloquent request to cease and desist xD


KKthxgtfo


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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Radiance » Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:28 pm

About Potato - looks like it have 5 day grow time. Or 6, not sure with this downtimes. More likely 5, cause it was later than cotton with same speed boost.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ShadowTani » Fri Jul 17, 2015 2:12 am

Hmm, had to delete a similar spam two days ago. Then I got that user kicked almost right away. Today I was however busy during most of the evening. Nice job editing them out until I got back. x3

pistolshrimp wrote:Yeah, this is on my too do list as well.

Liking the Alternative Acquisitions template, I may adapt it to tribewiki.

Feel free, I steal your templates shamelessly too. Will do so with the domestic animals template too eventually. :twisted:

But yeah… I fear we'll start seeing parser errors rearing their ugly head more in general going forward… Hence why I decided to overcome my fear of those terribly complicated templates lately, need more tools to tackle this threat to my OCPD. :lol: You've been doing a wonderful job getting everything linked up and prettied up with icons though, so is a shame that some pages don't seem to handle that much awesome. *gives fishing page a kick in the butt*

I'm kinda limited on time though, I got more work during summer and my sister is visiting, so don't really want to get myself in any bigger projects than I already have. So this goes straight on my "things-to-do-after-mid-August" list I'm afraid. :/

Radiance wrote:About Potato - looks like it have 5 day grow time. Or 6, not sure with this downtimes. More likely 5, cause it was later than cotton with same speed boost.

Great work. I've added it to the agriculture page with note about needing verification. I'm putting up a potato field today, and I'll set up a timer of 5 days on Enders client. If the server crashes it won't tick down I believe, so should be accurate.
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