[Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby lachlaan » Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:12 pm

I already added rummaging and alloying, and everything else i could think of. It shouldn't really affect anything if the artifacts themselves aren't updated, i believe it just won't show fields that weren't meant to be there anyway. So we might as well update stuff that does give alloying and rummaging as we add them, don't think it'll change much.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby firefox2026 » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:10 am

Well I'm not sure what I am doing copy and paste is easily lol.. Doing templates and/or making things jive is slightly over my head at the moment. I get what the issue is here at least thanks for the explanation. I just like to be able to use the inspirational page. :) (selfish I know)
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby vysen » Wed Apr 22, 2015 4:32 am

firefox2026 wrote:Well I'm not sure what I am doing copy and paste is easily lol.. Doing templates and/or making things jive is slightly over my head at the moment. I get what the issue is here at least thanks for the explanation. I just like to be able to use the inspirational page. :) (selfish I know)


Are any inspiration related pages acting weird still? Other than the food ones of course.

quick edit:

To fix food all the properties should probably be touched up and added(sources copy/pasted) first. Makes life easier.

String, Number, and Page specifically hold all that seems to be needed, as found here:
http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Special:Types/
http://www.salem-wiki.com/mediawiki/ind ... ial:Types/
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ericbomb » Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:06 pm

firefox2026 wrote:Well I'm not sure what I am doing copy and paste is easily lol.. Doing templates and/or making things jive is slightly over my head at the moment. I get what the issue is here at least thanks for the explanation. I just like to be able to use the inspirational page. :) (selfish I know)


I've noticed someone has been helping me :D

I did all the inspirational pages and looks like thanks to the effort of someone I'll finish the food today. Not sure what skills look like. Then it's on to craftables!
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ShadowTani » Sun May 03, 2015 8:01 pm

I guess the wiki isn't really active enough that leaving messages on the talk pages is any meaningful... I've mostly been focused on adding pages for some of the new skills and correcting some of those old ones that got broken infoboxes (due to using the old proficiency names etc.), I don't have the time Kralith seems to have, but I'll be trying to contribute regularly while I'm playing the game. =3 (I'm contributing to the Sabinati Wiki btw)

Either way, I've noticed there's a major inconsistency between the "Artifact" template and the pages that use that template. The pages that reference the template use the British-English word "Defence", while the template itself uses the American-English word "Defense". The result is that the values for several artifact bonuses isn't recognized and displayed at all. This need to be fixed, and there's two solutions to this:

  1. Edit the template so it uses the British-English word "Defence" instead of "Defense".
  2. Edit every darn artifact page, replacing the word "defence" with "defense" in all reference tables.
Obviously the first is the quickest and cleanest solution, though when I tried to fix it myself the preview didn't display the corrected items in the list. I dunno if this is something that will correct itself after saving, or if there was some details I where missing in the template - so I thought I ask about it before experimenting, maybe even someone with a bit better understanding with wiki templates care to take a look at it instead.

EDIT: Also, people, try not to copy-paste indiscriminately between the wiki's, there are some details on the Sabinati wiki which actually is more up to date than the Tribe Wiki, and visa versa. For example, Ceramic and Crucibles should not have gold bar, it's not the skill that unlock that recipe anymore - it's learned by a different skill now. It was correct to add the Glass buttons, but wrong to readd the gold bar. I'll correct it again once I figured out with an alt what exact skill actually unlocks the gold bar and gold egg recipes now.
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby lachlaan » Sun May 03, 2015 8:15 pm

The preview is very much slow if effective at all when tampering with templates and stuff that affects other stuff. I personally gave up trying to not spam the recent changes page by only doing one edit, and instead freely test stuff by submitting rather than trying to cheat the preview derpiness :D
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby ShadowTani » Sun May 03, 2015 8:22 pm

lachlaan wrote:The preview is very much slow if effective at all when tampering with templates and stuff that affects other stuff. I personally gave up trying to not spam the recent changes page by only doing one edit, and instead freely test stuff by submitting rather than trying to cheat the preview derpiness :D

That's what I was suspecting. I'll give it a try tomorrow then I guess. :3 There's always the undo option if things blows up too much. xD
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Kralith » Sun May 03, 2015 9:27 pm

Have updated today all Skills from C to H. Also Updated the GameMenu-Structure.

Can look at the Template and Replace the Word Defense.
Some other Templates i have edited in last days.
When other issues known, please post it here.

To the Pages:
Maybe i have edit it.
Normally i look at the Change Date. But it could be possible, i have overseen one.
I'm sorry for that.
When you see a wrong editing, then you can the right restore.

ShadowTani wrote:I don't have the time Kralith seems to have, but I'll be trying to contribute regularly while I'm playing the game. =3 (I'm contributing to the Sabinati Wiki btw)

I dont have the time, just editing the pages instead of playing. ;)
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby Kralith » Sun May 03, 2015 10:20 pm

ShadowTani wrote:Either way, I've noticed there's a major inconsistency between the "Artifact" template and the pages that use that template. The pages that reference the template use the British-English word "Defence", while the template itself uses the American-English word "Defense". The result is that the values for several artifact bonuses isn't recognized and displayed at all. This need to be fixed, and there's two solutions to this:

  1. Edit the template so it uses the British-English word "Defence" instead of "Defense".
  2. Edit every darn artifact page, replacing the word "defence" with "defense" in all reference tables.
Obviously the first is the quickest and cleanest solution, though when I tried to fix it myself the preview didn't display the corrected items in the list. I dunno if this is something that will correct itself after saving, or if there was some details I where missing in the template - so I thought I ask about it before experimenting, maybe even someone with a bit better understanding with wiki templates care to take a look at it instead.


So. Have correct it.
I had changed the Artiface Template, because there was any missing Artiface Boni on many sites and one more Bonusfield was added.
In this Case i dont have look in correct typo.
The Template InspirationalArtifact was the old one, but also here some Bonuslinks was broken.
Now i have "Defense" changed back to "Defence" and have edit the InspirationalArtifact Template for the additional Bonusfield.
Then i have searched all Sites with "defense" and have changed all variables to "defence".

So be carefully, when you copy&paste now Artifacts from other Wiki, because there are always the wrong Typo.

Little Edit:
I do Mass-Updates, so that i dont paste the Cause of the Change.
Think, so it will become quicker in a up2date Status.
But it will be slip in some errors in this way.
Have now look back the last days and reversed 3 Changes that i have overwritten.
Think it is better every Editor looks a little more intense while we update the whole wiki.
For ongoing changes i will do it more thoughtful.

It would be very nice, when now someone takes the next Skill-Sites from H upwards and check this for the updatestatus.
You dont need updating the images, that can i do it then ;)
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Re: [Wiki] Wiki Suggestion thread

Postby King_Nothing » Sun May 03, 2015 11:22 pm

Kralith wrote:
ShadowTani wrote:Either way, I've noticed there's a major inconsistency between the "Artifact" template and the pages that use that template. The pages that reference the template use the British-English word "Defence", while the template itself uses the American-English word "Defense". The result is that the values for several artifact bonuses isn't recognized and displayed at all. This need to be fixed, and there's two solutions to this:

  1. Edit the template so it uses the British-English word "Defence" instead of "Defense".
  2. Edit every darn artifact page, replacing the word "defence" with "defense" in all reference tables.
Obviously the first is the quickest and cleanest solution, though when I tried to fix it myself the preview didn't display the corrected items in the list. I dunno if this is something that will correct itself after saving, or if there was some details I where missing in the template - so I thought I ask about it before experimenting, maybe even someone with a bit better understanding with wiki templates care to take a look at it instead.


So. Have correct it.
I had changed the Artiface Template, because there was any missing Artiface Boni on many sites and one more Bonusfield was added.
In this Case i dont have look in correct typo.
The Template InspirationalArtifact was the old one, but also here some Bonuslinks was broken.
Now i have "Defense" changed back to "Defence" and have edit the InspirationalArtifact Template for the additional Bonusfield.
Then i have searched all Sites with "defense" and have changed all variables to "defence".

So be carefully, when you copy&paste now Artifacts from other Wiki, because there are always the wrong Typo.

Little Edit:
I do Mass-Updates, so that i dont paste the Cause of the Change.
Think, so it will become quicker in a up2date Status.
But it will be slip in some errors in this way.
Have now look back the last days and reversed 3 Changes that i have overwritten.
Think it is better every Editor looks a little more intense while we update the whole wiki.
For ongoing changes i will do it more thoughtful.

It would be very nice, when now someone takes the next Skill-Sites from H upwards and check this for the updatestatus.
You dont need updating the images, that can i do it then ;)


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