Rebalancing defences

[jwhitehorn]

His outside the box defenses include having boulders surrounding your base that a person has to chip to remove or find the 1 lucky stone that isn't bugged like the urns.

I"m glad you said "include" and I really hope you don't "assume" that you know the answer because I promise you don't. What Dallane is talking about is this tactic.



While I found the boulder-wall to be one of several clever wayts to think outside the box that is not actually ours or what I was talking about as we didn't actually build this vault. The screenshot shows you a few things:

#1: Something like this was more of a pain to siege so we just bell'd it (again showing that you can influence your raiders mentality on how to attack/seige you by clever mechanics).

#2: It houses 50 humour Chief Alts in hopes that it would have given our enemies a false-sense of security by getting summon kills on characters that didn't matter. It has little to do with the tactics I have been talking about earlier in the thread.

Once again though I hope this is at least helping some people realize that like the nature of any sandbox there is so much room for creative thoughts. And much more than "build stone wall" ---> "Build Brazier" ---> "Assume you are safe".

Our outside the box strategies are INFINITELY more powerful than this silly "rock D" but this "rock D" setup was way more powerful than just a simple wall.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[L33LEE]

With the implementation of trees, defenses capability went up 5000%, just 99.99% of the community are too dumb to realize this.

[Dallane]

With the implementation of trees, defenses capability went up 5000%, just 99.99% of the community are too dumb to realize this.

I think the point is you shouldn't have to use things like that to make a decent defense. I doubt jorbtar intended for trees or stones to be used as defense.

[L33LEE]

With the implementation of trees, defenses capability went up 5000%, just 99.99% of the community are too dumb to realize this.

I think the point is you shouldn't have to use things like that to make a decent defense. I doubt jorbtar intended for trees or stones to be used as defense.

Are you not the person on many times always basically said "abuse what you can why you can", and now your base is gone, your attitude towards has switched.

Funny to see dallane turn into a carebear.

"you should not have to use out of the box thinking for defenses in a sandbox game", Dallane please leave now.

[Dallane]

Are you not the person on many times always basically said "abuse what you can why you can", and now your base is gone, your attitude towards has switched.

Funny to see dallane turn into a carebear.

"you should not have to use out of the box thinking for defenses in a sandbox game", Dallane please leave now.

Where did i say that my attitude has switched? My hermit vault has something similar to this along with a nice little trick with walls. Fact is we as in the entire player base shouldn't have to use dumb tricks like this to be safe.

I get you don't like me but this isn't HoB. Keep your rage in check plz.

[jwhitehorn]

Fact is we as in the entire player base shouldn't have to use dumb tricks like this to be safe.

I agree. The fact is that the way our base is designed is not a "dumb trick" any more than purity is a "dumb trick". The player base does NOT have to use dumb tricks to be safe.

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[Potjeh]

Keep the politics in HoB, please.

[L33LEE]

Are you not the person on many times always basically said "abuse what you can why you can", and now your base is gone, your attitude towards has switched.

Funny to see dallane turn into a carebear.

"you should not have to use out of the box thinking for defenses in a sandbox game", Dallane please leave now.

Where did i say that my attitude has switched? My hermit vault has something similar to this along with a nice little trick with walls. Fact is we as in the entire player base shouldn't have to use dumb tricks like this to be safe.

I get you don't like me but this isn't HoB. Keep your rage in check plz.

Mearly pointing out that in sandbox games, is it not intended for players to seek out strange and wonderful ways to defend themselves ?

How fun it will be to build the siege walls people talk off then go, start base, gain skills why learning nothing of the real world outside your base, build these siege walls, be safe.

From the way defenses are made in this game (Very weak) it seems to me that the devs intent players to think of unique ways to defend there bases, based on current items and machanics (If boulder walls was abuse, the devs can easy fix it, clearly intended and prime defense mechanic anyone and EVERYONE can use, the same as planting trees, if the devs surely never ever intended for such things to be used as defense's adjustments can "easily be made" but are not.)

Current defense and unique ways of defending your base with boulders, trees, claimstones etc are working as intended untill removed. (another of your quotes)

Also why do you think i do not like you ?

[Potjeh]

I said drop the derail. If you want to discuss defences that's fine, but don't make it personal.

[Kaol]

I actually think you should be able to build a perfectly viable defense with the defensive tools available and not exploiting the game. Also no amount of static defenses can keep raiders at bay forever, and managing to hold off a raid for a night at the cost of loads of townhouses for example is not a good solution.