Removing Trial by Combat

[Kralith]

TBC/waste claims shouldn't be allowed on claimed land. To defend you should not be forced to leave more scents. Silly idea to become a criminal to defend against vigilantes. It should encourage an interaction, actual combat not summoning offline players or getting more scents.

You know, that you can't build a Trial by Combat on a claimed land?

[Tulgarath]

Thought you could claim around then like waste. ..that's why i mentioned both

[Taipion]

The setup for getting murder the long way is already anti-alt. Raiding too is anti-alt, for the most part, since anyone with a halfway decent base is going to force a raider to have a very well-developed character to raid it with.

So you are saying people use their main chars to murder, raid, steal,...?!

As I correctly pointed out, despite what some scared people say, this is a game of alts in just too many ways, especially and foremost: crime.

[Tulgarath]

The setup for getting murder the long way is already anti-alt. Raiding too is anti-alt, for the most part, since anyone with a halfway decent base is going to force a raider to have a very well-developed character to raid it with.

So you are saying people use their main chars to murder, raid, steal,...?!

As I correctly pointed out, despite what some scared people say, this is a game of alts in just too many ways, especially and foremost: crime.

I dont think anyone can argue that. The only thing I see argued is what the devs consider an 'alt'. They argue is not an alt if people have invested a significant amount of time, but i have never seen them arts any character as a 'main'.

[Taipion]

The setup for getting murder the long way is already anti-alt. Raiding too is anti-alt, for the most part, since anyone with a halfway decent base is going to force a raider to have a very well-developed character to raid it with.

So you are saying people use their main chars to murder, raid, steal,...?!

As I correctly pointed out, despite what some scared people say, this is a game of alts in just too many ways, especially and foremost: crime.

I dont think anyone can argue that. The only thing I see argued is what the devs consider an 'alt'. They argue is not an alt if people have invested a significant amount of time, but i have never seen them arts any character as a 'main'.

The work and time invested shrinks significantly if you or your group have a decent main and/or alts for certain tasks/proficiencies like SnC, HnS, ...

My point was, that a normal "main", unlike an alt, has more skills and a broader distribution of points among the proficiencies, instead of just being tailored for a special task.

[Tulgarath]

Oh, I'm with you. I dislike playing alts, my biggest turn off to Sale. I wish it was one account, one character, but that's so hard to enforce.

[Darwoth]

this thread is exactly what is wrong with the world and how scumbags like obama get elected and then given the nobel peace prize for being black and doing nothing else.

currently of the 18 posters in this thread there are exactly 6 that have any idea at all what they are talking about and only four with a significant amount of experience on the topic, the other twelve whom are also responsible for 90% of the posts are utterly clueless and most if not all have never even seen much less built or participated in a tbc.

you are all ***** morons, not because you are carebears that have not participated in the mechanic, but rather because you **** forth your opinions on this and everything else you are completely unqualified to comment on. in fact for most of you the less you know, the more you want to comment.

and yeah, figures we are back to tards ***** about "alts" again because no thread full of ***** would be complete without a revisit to said topic. i currently have six characters i use for crimes that i know for a fact outpace most "mains" on the server (400+ stats and hoarder skill obtained as a minimally descriptive baseline) in terms of both stats and skills, some folks like heffernan might make 12 hp trash characters to go steal your flask of deer piss out of an undefended lean to, but those people are also not going to be doing much more than that either.

[Taipion]

As Darwoth rightly said, most people don't do it ...because of how it works, putting (almost) the same risk on stealing a flask of whatsoever off an undefended leanto and murdering someone, simply shows how wrong thing currently are.

Also: If someone is so valiantly insulting and talking bad things at you, then you must have hit a nerve, I doubt he cares much about people talking things, but more about how this mechanic currently only favours people who have the infrastructure to mass produce high end alts, and are online 24/7, any change to this would probably be bad for him, that's why.

[TotalyMeow]

TBC/waste claims shouldn't be allowed on claimed land. To defend you should not be forced to leave more scents. Silly idea to become a criminal to defend against vigilantes. It should encourage an interaction, actual combat not summoning offline players or getting more scents.

They're not allowed on claimed land.

[Darwoth]

As Darwoth rightly said, most people don't do it ...because of how it works, putting (almost) the same risk on stealing a flask of whatsoever off an undefended leanto and murdering someone, simply shows how wrong thing currently are.

Also: If someone is so valiantly insulting and talking bad things at you, then you must have hit a nerve, I doubt he cares much about people talking things, but more about how this mechanic currently only favours people who have the infrastructure to mass produce high end alts, and are online 24/7, any change to this would probably be bad for him, that's why.

no "most people dont do it" for the same reason 95% of the playerbase did not before TBC was implemented, because like you they are a world of warcrap type that wants to be able to run around committing crimes without risking anything or putting any effort in, which is the complete opposite of what was intended.

and yeah, any change to make alt production more difficult would do nothing but favor me since i already have enough to last until the end of the internet and in the unlikely event that providence was ever wiped i would go own new folks in a new arena instead of kicking the same asses again for a fifth server and fourth year.

you are correct in one regard though, uninformed drivel does tend to get on my nerves.