A noob is going to quit when.....

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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby Yes » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:27 pm

Also how to walk, a list of hotkeys and what mousekeys do, a bit more noticable text and maybe a bit more specific (you read - "talk to" ... some npc, that not really means anything in a game, especially when you click on an npc and no flower menu pops up). Some people who haven't played rpgs a lot will have trouble with some things "veterans" would find obvious.
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby trungdle » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:49 pm

JohnCarver wrote:
trungdle wrote:How to walk with no path finding?


I'm going to cry.

No seriously. Tell them that or they will be screwed over.
Noobs need to be warned.
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:46 am

I'm sorry but really? People can't live without having the mechanics force fed down their poor little throats? What ever happened to actually investing your curiosity into how **** works. Information gathering on mechanics is an individual thing and only prepared up by communities to help the poor bastards who can not survive without a car manuel to operate the head-lights. If you want guides that are set in stone then go play H&H; the only problem will be you'll find it far more harsher than this game in later mechanics.

Now enough of this ad hominem ***** attack on a hypocrite. I can understand not understanding a single thing. Yet common sense still prevails to an all time high in a game such as this. Asking the developer to elaborate on new mechanics more so "for the noobs" helps no one. This is a game where knowing advanced mechanics dictates the economy for a few weeks after an update; as well as rivaling factions. If those who don't know anything feel as if they should give up then they are weak. This game caters, less than, to those who are fine, and even enjoy, the concept of death. You will die at least once and when you do you've left the noob stage for good. So many noobs fail to grasp that single idea that all the materialistic ***** they hold onto in this game is useless even though its plastered everywhere. Its like we need a massive billboard at noob-starting-point that says "Hey *****! You will die in this game; its permanent death!". Even the basic information out there in the help section screams this. Yet fun fact: The old information might as well not change in the old guides. All that has really been added was a few nice mechanics with a lot of shiny new objects. Besides noobs can stock pile flowers and other low weigh items while being a nomad to gather enough information on what they need on a notepad. Other than that why wouldn't you love the current tutorial? I think it is funny as hell you get the KO guide upon knock out. Jorbtar and Loftar have great humor in regards to such don't you think?

I fail to see how the wiki is not up to date. On brand new mechanics? Sure. If you expect less than that then please go find another game. Enough folk with that mind set come into H&H daily and after a few years you really do not give two ***** to tell them such. Praise Jorbtar when the same mentality is adopted here more so than it is now.



JohnCarver wrote:
trungdle wrote:How to walk with no path finding?


I'm going to cry.


My tears already died inside before you cried. My tears have reaches Elysium before your tears. People don't appreciate walkin' in straight lines anymore.

trungdle wrote:No seriously. Tell them that or they will be screwed over.
Noobs need to be warned.


Noobs need to be able to be turned into a new bread recipe: Tear-Loaf. Each bite you can taste their sweet n' bitter innocent tears.
 
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby Procne » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:14 am

Why are you so angry?
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby trungdle » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:15 am

Chill, I was saying tel them that they HAVE to walk in a straight line, not asking for it to be changed. I used to, but not anymore.
Second, I think we need to give them a chance. This could possibly be their first game in the genre, asking them to accommodate quickly is unreasonable. At least show them what we've got, then if they still can't make it, let them go. Now is it better than just crying about how noobs are so inferior to us.
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby Procne » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:19 am

Why do some people treat this game as a spartan proving grounds? Why so serious?
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby Yes » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:28 am

Procne wrote:Why do some people treat this game as a spartan proving grounds? Why so serious?

GAME? YOU THINK IT'S A MOTHER ***** GAME?
jOKE
Because getting good at this game is like getting into a closed society like masons. You go through a lot of hard ****, and then you achieve the goal. The achievement feels very valuable to you because you spent lots of resources on it.
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby trungdle » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:59 am

Ok, my girl rarely play game. Only thing she played recently is hay day. Before when she were young she played pacman, clark, dynasty warriors and that's about it.
First she complained about the graphic being so gloomy. Then she started the game. She fail to use right click on the npc for 30 sec. She kept double clicking him. :lol: Didn't know that click that guy again turn her into a girl. She then proceed on getting stuck between the npc and the chest. Tried to put cloth on by right click the cloth on her toon's body ¦]
Anyhow, she managed to port to Boston with the name "boring" and used the wilderness guide. She then proceed on running around, doing nothing. Then I lost patient and ask her to right click stuff to see what they do. She then right click a flint without knowing how to pick it. When the "pick" show up she right click the flint again ¦] . Then she collect some branches and nuts. She really get into collecting nuts. Then she saw some rabbits and a deer and started to chase them around. Pretty funny. I don't think she's bored but she definitely clueless and the moment you are ported out, you are on your own. She would have quitted without me being there as a noob.
Let's see how it goes next time.
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:16 am

Procne wrote:Why so serious?

Why so serious?

:lol:

I think its funny; not angry or annoyed. You don't see other people's problems as amusing, let alone their suffering as amusing? Its all funny.

So again: Why so serious?
 
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Re: A noob is going to quit when.....

Postby Procne » Sat Feb 21, 2015 11:07 am

Good, you calmed down
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