Our dead hopes and dreams

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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby enemyunknown » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:29 pm

Procne wrote:It doesn't take a lot of effort to circumvent those methods. Just because someone was stupid and got banned doesn't mean it works perfectly. Besides, what is the point in making alts in planetside?

As i said, HWID-ban is enough for most users. Yes, it can be avoided using third-party soft, but when it comes with IP-checking, it's a pain-in-da-ass and a lot of time. Works just fine (not brilliant).

Just check any SOE's game to see how many kid-cheaters they got.

darnokpl wrote:You should get some warning from mods for that last sentence.

See if i care.
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby Procne » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:35 pm

enemyunknown wrote:
Procne wrote:It doesn't take a lot of effort to circumvent those methods. Just because someone was stupid and got banned doesn't mean it works perfectly. Besides, what is the point in making alts in planetside?

As i said, HWID-ban is enough for most users. Yes, it can be avoided using third-party soft, but when it comes with IP-checking, it's a pain-in-da-ass and a lot of time. Works just fine (not brilliant).

Just check any SOE's game to see how many kid-cheaters they got.

And what do you want to achieve here? Practically most of the regular Salem players know how to get around HWID or IP check. The only thing you will get this way is increasing the gap between more tech-savvy players and the rest. Anyone, who really needs the alts, will get around it.
And what SOE games do you have in minds? I believe sure that no MMORPG has anti-alt rule.
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby Procne » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:37 pm

Wait, I know! enemyunknown is talking about bots!
I guess it doesn't make sense to talk with someone who doesn't see a difference between a bot and an alt ^^
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby darnokpl » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:42 pm

Procne wrote:Wait, I know! enemyunknown is talking about bots!
I guess it doesn't make sense to talk with someone who doesn't see a difference between a bot and an alt ^^


Well after reading this again... I think he does know the difference, it is just some pro another account and he is trying to be more credible before wipe :lol:
Sadly there is so many of that kind "new guys" in last few days.
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby enemyunknown » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:46 pm

Procne wrote:theories

Now it came to the point: all your knowlege is your self-made theories. Making new IP and HWID for every alt-login every time you wanna play is a piece of cake for you? Oh, sure. No MMORPG with anti-alt rule? Whatever you say. With a power of your imagination everything is possible.

Let's talk 'bout it when you'll stop *****' around and try IRL something you're talkin' about. INB4: Never.

Procne wrote:Wait, I know!

(sigh) Dat feel... When you try to talk with people and found retarded monkeys instead. Kids, you're just ***** up yourself.
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby Procne » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:52 pm

enemyunknown wrote:
Procne wrote:theories

Now it came to the point: all your knowlege is your self-made theories. Making new IP and HWID for every alt-login every time you wanna play is a piece of cake for you? Oh, sure. No MMORPG with anti-alt rule? Whatever you say. With a power of your imagination everything is possible.

Let's talk 'bout it when you'll stop *****' around and try IRL something you're talkin' about. INB4: Never.


HWID is a piece of cake. It's enough to run a virtual OS. Or, you know, just have another PC / laptop. New IP? Use proxy, there are plenty of those. But noone will ban because of matching IPs anyway, because family members can play too or students in dormitories.

Mate, now you are only throwing insults left and right. Is that what you came for? Show me a MMORPG with anti-alt rule. Planetside is not banning for alts. It's banning for bots and hacks.

Anyway, most people here know it's impossible to get rid of alts. You can either accept it and try to understand why, or just keep insulting everyone, even though you have no knowledge, under disguise of suffesting ideas for the game. I'm out
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby enemyunknown » Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:54 pm

Procne wrote:I'm out

Please do.
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby Darwoth » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:42 pm

my hope and dream is that this section of the forums are closed so i do not get tempted to read the idiotic **** that gets posted on it.
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby Kandarim » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:43 pm

@boston port: I agree, but it does make the salem world feel more civilized than the haven one. There is much to be said about boston in its favour, too.

@no alts and the resulting discussion: very few of the MMO's I've played had a no-alt rule. They all had a no-bot rule, and most limited the interaction between same-IP alts, for example.
Thank god jorb and loftar don't feel to impose such a ridiculous restriction on us. I sure as hell wouldn't bother anymore if I could only play with a single character at once. Salem is grindy enough as it is, and one of the good things is that you are able to work with 3-4 characters at the same time to get rid of some of the grind-feeling. Can you imagine digging lime with your main character, going to the lime quarry and back with a couple of chests like a savage? Next you'll be requiring a single IP per base rule :lol:

Darwoth wrote:my hope and dream is that this section of the forums are closed so i do not get tempted to read the idiotic **** that gets posted on it.


I almost dread to admit it, but I'm starting to agree with you on something.
I have neither the crayons nor the time to explain it to you.
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Re: Our dead hopes and dreams

Postby Dallane » Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:40 pm

Darwoth wrote:my hope and dream is that this section of the forums are closed so i do not get tempted to read the idiotic **** that gets posted on it.


100% this.
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