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Tiered crop ratios

Postby Potjeh » Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:36 pm

I harvested a field of cotton with 95% in first bar (cabbage) and 35% in second bar (cereal) and got 5 egyptian cotton and just 3 indian. Am I not supposed to get like 3/4 indian with field bars like this? And yeah, I know, it's an old bug, but it's really pissing me off now that I'm tiering up my cabbage/cotton fields for golden corn.
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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby Judaism » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:29 pm

Potjeh wrote:I harvested a field of cotton with 95% in first bar (cabbage) and 35% in second bar (cereal) and got 5 egyptian cotton and just 3 indian. Am I not supposed to get like 3/4 indian with field bars like this? And yeah, I know, it's an old bug, but it's really pissing me off now that I'm tiering up my cabbage/cotton fields for golden corn.



You are supposed to get 100% indian if I am right :geek:
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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby Kandarim » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:52 pm

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Potjeh wrote:I harvested a field of cotton with 95% in first bar (cabbage) and 35% in second bar (cereal) and got 5 egyptian cotton and just 3 indian. Am I not supposed to get like 3/4 indian with field bars like this? And yeah, I know, it's an old bug, but it's really pissing me off now that I'm tiering up my cabbage/cotton fields for golden corn.



You are supposed to get 100% indian if I am right :geek:


you are not, I think.

As far as it goes in my memory:

50-100 total influence with a single bar: all of that tier 2 output
50+ total influence, spread out over the two relevant bars:
Take the lowest of the two, here being 35. That is your tier3 figure. Subtract it from the highest figure, which now gives you your tier2 figure, being 60 in this case. Your tier3/tier2 ratio will now be 35/60, or 3/5 rounded down to your specific instance. The tier 2 will be the produce related to the highest bar.
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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby DarkNacht » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:19 pm

Kandarim wrote:
Judaism wrote:
Potjeh wrote:I harvested a field of cotton with 95% in first bar (cabbage) and 35% in second bar (cereal) and got 5 egyptian cotton and just 3 indian. Am I not supposed to get like 3/4 indian with field bars like this? And yeah, I know, it's an old bug, but it's really pissing me off now that I'm tiering up my cabbage/cotton fields for golden corn.



You are supposed to get 100% indian if I am right :geek:


you are not, I think.

As far as it goes in my memory:

50-100 total influence with a single bar: all of that tier 2 output
50+ total influence, spread out over the two relevant bars:
Take the lowest of the two, here being 35. That is your tier3 figure. Subtract it from the highest figure, which now gives you your tier2 figure, being 60 in this case. Your tier3/tier2 ratio will now be 35/60, or 3/5 rounded down to your specific instance. The tier 2 will be the produce related to the highest bar.

You only get t3 if the influence is 150+.
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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby Judaism » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:08 pm

Guys, since when Indian cotton is tier 3 ?

He got a 95% red, and a 35% green bar.

The highest bar counts, so that is blue.

He got a total of 130% so thats more then 100% -> that should lead to 100% Indian cotton yields.

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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby L33LEE » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:58 pm

People talking about farming as if they know how it works


Each +/-5 on a bar is relevant to -/+10% of a tier output.

1st Cycle (After you have maxed out your bars)
It is never possible to achieve a 100% output of T3 as the combined bars will be a max of +195, with 2 bars @ +100 and +95, you will get a T3 Yield of 90%, and T2 Yield of 10%.

2nd Cycle
After your first cycle of T3, Your bars will drop to +95 and +90, so a combined total of +185.
Now the output of this field will be 70% T3, and 30% T2

3rd Cycle (this is were a cycle for T3 items becomes not optimal)
Now your bars are +90 and +85, a combined total of +175
This will yield 50% T3, 50% T2

4th Cycle
bars are now at +85 and +80, a combined of +165
This will yield 30% T3, 70% T2

5th cycle
Bars now at +80 and +75, combined of +155
This will yield 10% T3, 90% T2

6th cycle (Drops back into T1 stuff)
Bars now at +75 and +70, combined of +145
This will yield 100% T2, 0% T3, 0% T1

so combined values / Tier output from 50-195 combined stats
55 = 90% T1, 10% T2
60 = 80% T1, 20% T2
65 = 70% T1, 30% T2
70 = 60% T1, 40% T2
75 = 50% T1, 50% T2
100 = 0% T1, 100% T2(mixed depending on which bar is higher)
125 = 0% T1, 100% T2(mixed depending on which bar is higher)
150 = 0% T1, 100% T2(mixed depending on which bar is higher)
155 = 90% T2, 10% T3
160 = 80% T2, 20% T3
165 = 70% T2, 30% T3
170 = 60% T2, 40% T3
175 = 50% T2, 50% T3
195 = 10% T2, 90% T3

Hope this helps you guys.

Now stop spreading "lies" on how farming Tier crops works.

PS: Were i have mentioned T2, this can be mixed T2, or just 1 type, depends how high each bar is.

PPS: If i remember correctly ¦]

PPPS: The reason your numbers are so messed up, is because your yield is so low. If you was getting 10-20 cotton, you would have a lot more accurate results. You know this game and "rounding numbers"

To Note : If you had a 100+50 bar, you would get 67% yield of 1 T2 type, and a 33% yield of the other type which is almost what you had and your results in numbers show this.

Im unsure how accurate the diagram is with regards to which output gives which.
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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby Kandarim » Sat Jul 27, 2013 3:39 pm

DarkNacht wrote:You only get t3 if the influence is 150+.


please make sure you know what you're talking about. As of right now, it's impossible to get 100% t3 yields, even with 195 total influence in two bars.

edit: L33L33 beat me to it, I just skimmed over his post ^^

And yes, I kinda mixed up sea Island and indian. My argument and numbers are still valid, afaik
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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby Potjeh » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:46 pm

Uhm, did you read the first post? I'm getting more egyptian cotton than indian when my red bar (cabbage, which makes indian cotton on it's own) is much higher than my green bar (cereal, which makes egyptian cotton on it's own).
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Re: Tiered crop ratios

Postby Kandarim » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:06 pm

Woops. Seems i had the ratios right but not the actual produce. I have little experience with t2 crops, only started doing them after the recipe updates. Apologies, oh enlightened one.
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