Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:03 pm

Ass_Kraken wrote:
Mushibag wrote:This is the best thread ever!

Just make me a mod, and all of these problems everyone is ***** about will be remedied immediately.

I would implement Hustlinguistic's mod-campaign slogan promising perma-bans for anyone who logs into the forums, no exceptions. :twisted:

And if you make a post, mushi comes into your house in the night and cuts your genitals.

And if you start a thread, Mushi activates the self-destruct code on your computer that you downloaded with ender's client. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm kidding for anyone who didn't understand it. :D
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby colesie » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:04 pm

WOW, stop
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby jorb » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:23 pm

Unlocked Chief's thread, as his new racket strikes me as significantly different froim his old racket to allow it a thread of its own, and because, meh, why not. As Chief is perfectly able to post from alt-accounts and whatnot, I think his recent paddling seems only reasonable, if perhaps a bit on the long side. As I myself have been away for a spell, and as the world isn't quite itself without captain Hook, I've decided to give him a week's rebate on the sentence, which now stands until Oct. 11.

With regards to the mod-squads latest actions I've reviewed the incidents on this list -- viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6839&start=360#p99082 -- and found the complaints mostly construed and legalistic. False bug reports (town murder bug) certainly merits a spell in the cold, and the rest of the complaints strike me as small, to say the least, though I can perhaps have some sympathy for them if understood as indicative of systematic bias.

Mods could perhaps make some effort to avoid moderating **** concerning themselves -- especially if it's turned infected -- but this is obviously perfectly fine. If you take a cheap-shot at a mod over another moderation that doesn't really concern you, then I think you deserve to get a warning, and I see no problem with the responding officer dealing with it, because you know full well what you are doing. Likewise, a small offhand comment made in a foreign language är helt okej, and generally speaking if this list of complaints is the best you can scrounge up then I see no reason to change moderation standards. Not to name names, but I think Potjeh has shown ample tolerance of your trolling him -- see "I wish I could grow a soul patch like that".

I would like to underscore that I have an especially hard time with legalistic and formulaic complaints. It is always the spirit of the law, rather than the letter, that must be enforced: Yes, this always involves making personal, human, biased judgments.

(For example: The point of the English-is-lingua-franca rule is not to ban any and all content in another language, but to ensure that the overwhelming majority of the content on the forum be accessible in English. A small, offhand comment that can be google translated in five seconds is simply not a problem, whereas whole, non-canonical ethnic enclaves of the forum would be.)

If I've missed anything I'm open to have some discussion on the subject -- here or in private -- but other than that I'm going to consider justice to now have been upheld, and these matters closed.

Let's try to keep up a good spirit here instead of bickering.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby jorb » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:31 pm

I'll remind the mods, however, that humour, generosity, good tone and good cheer goes a long way toward avoiding these discussions, and I think we can all get better at that, myself included.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Jalpha » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:34 pm

jorb wrote: Yes, this always involves making personal, human, biased judgments.


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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Rydersowl » Tue Oct 01, 2013 4:56 pm

jorb wrote:I'll remind the mods, however, that humour, generosity, good tone and good cheer goes a long way toward avoiding these discussions, and I think we can all get better at that, myself included.


This. And thank you. You pretty much covered the concerns I had. I enjoy the forums almost as much as the game but some of the recent attitudes and comments from moderation gave off a very hostile ambiance. It's easy to get the impression that a few are looking for excuses at times and that makes it difficult to say anything contrary without the concern that your posts will have the scrutiny applied. There are good mods here but I sometimes fear that one in that role would be cautious of toe stepping even when a colleague or peer may not be completely correct in their decision quality. I was just hoping some sort of dialogue would be had amongst them to come to the same conclusion you did. Now that all this has been aired out hopefully it will clear said air.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Claeyt » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:37 pm

I guess my only question after all this is what happens the next time the Chief goes off the rails? Will the ban be longer?
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Grevalu » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:54 pm

Claeyt wrote:I guess my only question after all this is what happens the next time the Chief goes off the rails? Will the ban be longer?


We can only hope. Can you imagine a Free from Chief Holiday Month instead of just a week? *crosses fingers*
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby TeckXKnight » Wed Oct 02, 2013 1:53 am

Claeyt wrote:I guess my only question after all this is what happens the next time the Chief goes off the rails? Will the ban be longer?

Any sorts of punishments will be determined by the circumstances surrounding the situation if and when it occurs. Deciding that right now would do no one any good. =)
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby colesie » Wed Oct 02, 2013 6:27 am

Claeyt wrote:I guess my only question after all this is what happens the next time the Chief goes off the rails? Will the ban be longer?

I would increase the ban or keep it on par for similar offenses which he obviously knows better than to do by now
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