Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Ikpeip » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:18 am

sabinati wrote:
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As for the ban for abusing the report function, no report was actually filed.

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then it's two for trolling


So the sentence was pre-determined, and the charges are concocted after the fact?

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby sabinati » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:38 am

take it up with jorb if you wish to contest it further
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Ikpeip » Sat Sep 28, 2013 3:41 am

sabinati wrote:take it up with jorb if you wish to contest it further

Request for clarification - is that a moderator edict, or plainclothes trashtalking?

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby sabinati » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:09 am

you have a strange definition of trashtalking. i don't know how i could be more clear. in my opinion, the matter is closed. if you wish to continue arguing it you will have to do so with jorb.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Ikpeip » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:12 am

sabinati wrote:you have a strange definition of trashtalking. i don't know how i could be more clear. in my opinion, the matter is closed. if you wish to continue arguing it you will have to do so with jorb.

You could be more clear by not evading the question. I'll restate to get to the crux - if I put together a more thorough text on the shortcomings of the moderators here, will your comment to "take it up with jorb" be used as a pretense for a ban?

If "take it up with jorb" is a moderation edict, the claim can be made that ignoring it is a rules violation. If "take it up with jorb" is you saying that you personally don't care what I have to say, but the comment is being made in a non-moderation context, I'm still free to state my case publicly.

This ambiguous middle ground is why moderators are supposed to use green text when they are moderating. The practice of using green text has fallen out of practice with some moderators, who wish the position of moderator to be viewed as a personal power/status symbol, as opposed to a voluntary obligation to the Salem community.

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby maggie » Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:56 am

Binks and chief should be unbanned it's so uncalled for!

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby sabinati » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:34 am

what question am i evading? the issue is closed. if you wish to continue your argument, take it up with jorb. is that more clear?
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Ikpeip » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:35 am

sabinati wrote:what question am i evading? the issue is closed. if you wish to continue your argument, take it up with jorb. is that more clear?

Yup.

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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby sabinati » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:36 am

ps green text is a crutch established by the paradox regime it should be clear by content and context that i am acting as a moderator in the moderation thread.
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Re: Moderation Complaints Megathread v.2.0

Postby Ikpeip » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:45 am

sabinati wrote:ps green text is a crutch established by the paradox regime it should be clear by content and context that i am acting as a moderator in the moderation thread.

But it was not clear - this issue has also popped up in the past, with the response going the other way, and moderators insisting the forum public should've known they were not speaking as a moderator because they didn't green text.

Hell, you yourself were trolling this same thread just a page back:
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Ass_Kraken wrote:imo everyone should be perma-banned, from the game as well.

pras


Even if you're abandoning the green-text standard, you shouldn't be so opposed to clarifying when it's not "clear from content and context."

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