Let's have that political discussion.

[staxjax]

social security, medicare and medicaid are handouts that need to be eliminated, the country does not have the ability to pay everyones lunch indefinitely without imploding.


medicaid is the refuge of the welfare queen, not even remotely comparable to social security which is a ***** program as well, it is not my responsiblity to pay for some old ***** that did not plan for their life properly. medicaid should be the first to go.

i know several doctors who have to hide their disgust whenever a ***** busts out the medicaid card.

and give me a ***** break do you know how many pieces of **** collect a disability check yet are able to function perfectly normally? the answer is most of them.

the solution is to stop giving away free **** to pieces of ****, not "revamping the tax code" to steal yet more money from those who do something other than sit on their ass to give it to people who should be made into indentured servants for the duration of their free ride.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[staxjax]

Look up the cost of goods 5 years ago vs today. If you had a job 5 years ago, look at how much you paid the government in taxes vs. today. If you believe in socialist *****, then yes, the past 5 years has been much better than you were used to.

So are you just coming on to spew nonsense and then leave for another month?

Much better than spewing nonsense day in and day out.

I was relocating IRL, then I got back in to HnH and kind of gave up on Salem, although I much prefer playing Salem over HnH...but for me, it is all about the people you play games with not the game itself.

[Rydersowl]

Look up the cost of goods 5 years ago vs today. If you had a job 5 years ago, look at how much you paid the government in taxes vs. today. If you believe in socialist *****, then yes, the past 5 years has been much better than you were used to.

So are you just coming on to spew nonsense and then leave for another month?

Much better than spewing nonsense day in and day out.

It's funny cause it's true.

[jwhitehorn]

So are you just coming on to spew nonsense and then leave for another month?

Much better than spewing nonsense day in and day out.

I was relocating IRL, then I got back in to HnH and kind of gave up on Salem, although I much prefer playing Salem over HnH...but for me, it is all about the people you play games with not the game itself.

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This cuts me deep. are you suggesting that I am not good company?

Chief PeePooKaKa
MM Tribe

[MagicManICT]

Read http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/09/05/ ... jqU6n_Ba5I

and discuss. (Probably not much to discuss. Think everyone hates this except the NSA, FBI, CIA, and other Fed "justice" organizations.)

Before anyone starts going "Obama," this started under Bush before the Dems took control of Congress in 2006. The big NSA facility in Utah that is used to collect all this was funded in 2004 or 2005 explicitly to do this. Prior to it opening, various other listening posts were used (I've never seen an exact amount of coverage, but the new Utah facility can cover 100% of all traffic in the world) as well as "cooperative persuasion" (probably the wrong phrase) to encourage businesses like Microsoft and Google (as well as Verizon and every other telecom and data provider) to cooperate instead of dealing with millions of dollars in lawyers and court fees from "bogus" legal filings with accusations of criminal activity at the worst, dealing with complex warrants at a minimum costing millions or tens of millions in legal and operation fees. It's the same crap they pull with drug users to get them to roll on their dealers, but on a corporate level instead of a criminal, however, this is more a "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" as everyone recognizes that warrants could be issued, money is saved all around, blah blah blah.

(Yes, this is from two weeks ago. I fell behind on some of my new feeds.)

[Spazzmaticus]

Read http://www.gamepolitics.com/2013/09/05/ ... jqU6n_Ba5I

and discuss. (Probably not much to discuss. Think everyone hates this except the NSA, FBI, CIA, and other Fed "justice" organizations.)

Before anyone starts going "Obama," this started under Bush before the Dems took control of Congress in 2006. The big NSA facility in Utah that is used to collect all this was funded in 2004 or 2005 explicitly to do this. Prior to it opening, various other listening posts were used (I've never seen an exact amount of coverage, but the new Utah facility can cover 100% of all traffic in the world) as well as "cooperative persuasion" (probably the wrong phrase) to encourage businesses like Microsoft and Google (as well as Verizon and every other telecom and data provider) to cooperate instead of dealing with millions of dollars in lawyers and court fees from "bogus" legal filings with accusations of criminal activity at the worst, dealing with complex warrants at a minimum costing millions or tens of millions in legal and operation fees. It's the same crap they pull with drug users to get them to roll on their dealers, but on a corporate level instead of a criminal, however, this is more a "I scratch your back, you scratch mine" as everyone recognizes that warrants could be issued, money is saved all around, blah blah blah.

(Yes, this is from two weeks ago. I fell behind on some of my new feeds.)

http://www.cracked.com/podcast/why-peop ... book-1984/

The loss of privacy is an annoyance to younger generations and a living nightmare for the older ones.

[Cheena]

The loss of privacy is an annoyance to younger generations and a living nightmare for the older ones.

Do anyone ever had any privacy on internet ?

[MagicManICT]

The loss of privacy is an annoyance to younger generations and a living nightmare for the older ones.

One word: Facebook. Suppose you could add Twitter to that.

[RuneNL]

The loss of privacy is an annoyance to younger generations and a living nightmare for the older ones.

One word: Facebook. Suppose you could add Twitter to that.

Dont't forget this piece of nifty software:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

Had a one day protest about that here -_-.

[Kalliokamu]

stuff

Do you think the 8 years under Bush were better than the last 5 years under Obama? Please explain your answer.

Look up the cost of goods 5 years ago vs today. If you had a job 5 years ago, look at how much you paid the government in taxes vs. today. If you believe in socialist *****, then yes, the past 5 years has been much better than you were used to.

Commenting this from Scandinavia, don't ***** up your country with socialist ***** like we have done here. Otherwise I have to look for my future home country in Asia..

Socialist (leftist) generous welfare policy combined with irresponsible (leftist) refugee policy has driven these countries against a wall. The tax payer burden in here has become unbearable and all educated people join the brain-drain and leave for US or Asia. I'm joining them too with my family and looking for IT jobs near Seattle or San Francisco Bay area. Tell Obama not to screw it up . Gotta agree with Staxjax and Darwoth here..