Judaism Kill #6

[Claeyt]

Haha Chief,

One day I'll wander into the wrong place and get splattered, or someone will come wandering into me and I'll get splattered ... I still won't have finished my map by then most likely, haven't been around that long so still have a lot of walking ahead of me before I'm done there, so Plymouth will have to wait a while I'm afraid And if I head over to Plymouth, Binks will have 1 less snake skull supplier on hand! Speaking of which, I still have 1 aside for you Binks, BB has keys to my chest and is happy to trade for your silver any time Unlike this thread's original topic, Binks has always dealt fairly (shameless trade plug, can you tell I'm low on silver? hehe) ...

Binks is not a trustworthy trader. I lent the Candy Gang 2000s and was promised by Greb and the Candy Queen that Kit Kat as treasurer would pay me back with no strings attached, and they thanked me for the quick loan. Binks (aka Kit Kat) then screwed me out of the loan and has refused to pay it back even though both Greb and the Candy Queen have told me since then that they have asked him to pay me back. He to this day refuses to pay back the Candy Gang loan I gave them.

Anybody out there should be careful trading with Binks (Kit Kat)

[Claeyt]

Why didn't you report it months ago? It was hidden unless you really looked at it. Otherwise I wouldn't of had to tell them they missed one.

I pm'd them about it 4 months ago to their forum accounts after Le Negotiant's got nuked but not CoD's.

It's been sitting there since January.

[Jalpha]

I'm sure a 15 player population helps with that as well

It frequently as low as 5 on Plymouth.

[Binks]

Haha Chief,

One day I'll wander into the wrong place and get splattered, or someone will come wandering into me and I'll get splattered ... I still won't have finished my map by then most likely, haven't been around that long so still have a lot of walking ahead of me before I'm done there, so Plymouth will have to wait a while I'm afraid And if I head over to Plymouth, Binks will have 1 less snake skull supplier on hand! Speaking of which, I still have 1 aside for you Binks, BB has keys to my chest and is happy to trade for your silver any time Unlike this thread's original topic, Binks has always dealt fairly (shameless trade plug, can you tell I'm low on silver? hehe) ...

Binks is not a trustworthy trader. I lent the Candy Gang 2000s and was promised by Greb and the Candy Queen that Kit Kat as treasurer would pay me back with no strings attached, and they thanked me for the quick loan. Binks (aka Kit Kat) then screwed me out of the loan and has refused to pay it back even though both Greb and the Candy Queen have told me since then that they have asked him to pay me back. He to this day refuses to pay back the Candy Gang loan I gave them.

Anybody out there should be careful trading with Binks (Kit Kat)

Are we really going to go over this again? As soon as you pay Pay Master Paul the 500s you owe him for Chief killing Colesie you will indeed get your 2000 silver. Until than your accounts are frozen and there is nothing I can do about it. When have I ever lied about anything?

[jophbot]

Claeyt I've only been reading these forums for 24 hours and I have read multiple posts from you where you not only jump to conclusions and make assumptions based, as far as I can tell, purely on the fact that you dislike people therefore they must be doing the worst possile thing, you disregard possibilities that less sinister possibilities exist ...

So it's guilty until proven innocent in your eyes? Is that really the attitude that you wish for people to associate with your name? ...

So I'll take your words with a grain of salt, and trust in my own doings rather than those heavily biased words (and many, many words you say ... seriously do you have arthritis? I have data entry staff that type less than you do in a 24 hour period ... you should seek professional help for that perhaps)

[Claeyt]

Are we really going to go over this again? As soon as you pay Pay Master Paul the 500s you owe him for Chief killing Colesie you will indeed get your 2000 silver. Until than your accounts are frozen and there is nothing I can do about it. When have I ever lied about anything?

You lie to me daily Binks. Daily. My deal with the Queen and Greb had nothing to do with PmP or the tribe. You piss on the trust that I gave you over the last 6 months and my deal with them every day you don't pay me back. Your lying and killing were some of the main reasons nobody trusts you to ranger for them anymore and one of the reasons YGM so readily believed that you could backstab the Queen and the Gang. It's also one of the reason's we're around 40 now as a daily average on Roanoke. I've already said you could take the 500s for the Colesie kill out of it and pay the Chief with it. Anything else is just you trolling me after I helped out Greb and the Queen in a tight spot which is a ****** thing to do after both of them have said that you'd pay me back multiple times now. You're without any honor in the matter anymore and both Greb and the Queen have said that I should have gotten paid. Because of that nobody should trust you whatsoever in any trade.

You lied to me about paying me back. You lied to the 3 guys at Apples and Oranges about how I killed Windwalker even though it was actually the Chief. You lied to them about how I couldn't be trusted. You and Dreth lied and betrayed me about a lot of things. You lied to Colesie about protecting him at the Arena. You lied to everybody about you joining the Tribe. You and Dreth lied to me about not wanting to kill me at the Arena when I delivered the canoe thief.

If I pay them, you'll just keep the 2000s and I'll be out another 500s so just drop the *****.

You or PmP can troll me as much as you want, and it's not about the money. It's about how I was one of your biggest supporters and trusted you until you pulled this ***** and the rest of the ***** over the last month. You're right, 2 months ago I would have supported you and given you info on any raiders. Now I trust some of them more than you.

[Claeyt]

Claeyt I've only been reading these forums for 24 hours and I have read multiple posts from you where you not only jump to conclusions and make assumptions based, as far as I can tell, purely on the fact that you dislike people therefore they must be doing the worst possile thing, you disregard possibilities that less sinister possibilities exist ...

So it's guilty until proven innocent in your eyes? Is that really the attitude that you wish for people to associate with your name? ...

So I'll take your words with a grain of salt, and trust in my own doings rather than those heavily biased words (and many, many words you say ... seriously do you have arthritis? I have data entry staff that type less than you do in a 24 hour period ... you should seek professional help for that perhaps)

WTF are you talking about???

You're jumping into stuff that's in some cases months old. Yes, I type fast. It's easy for me to write walls of posts.

[jophbot]

Aww don't look at it as jumping into old stuff, look at it as a fresh perspective on stale stuff And from where I am sitting, it seems your fingers seem to type things before your brain fully processes them ... this particular thread, for example, is not an old issue at all ... Oh there is history behind the characters involved, no doubt, but you turned a case of someone ticketing an exploit into a grand conspiracy before backpedalling when the truth was found to be far simpler and lacking all of the sinister intent that you blindly stated was behind it all ... You make negative remarks about Binks' character and trustworthiness in business deals without disclosing the additional detail of incomplete deals at your end as well? The fact that you made a bursed a loan to a creditor, whether you believe it a just debt or not, doesn't quite ring true with regards to a scam at the Tribe end ... All I know (which is more than I care to, I wasn't there and it's done no less) is what's gone in this thread, which as a newcomer looking in does not reflect well on you at all.

[Binks]

You lie to me daily Binks.

False.

My deal with the Queen and Greb had nothing to do with PmP or the tribe.

False. It also has nothing to do with me. Did I ask you for the money? Did I say I would pay you back? Nope, I never lied. However if you pay back PmP what you owe. I will pay you back what they owe you. Until than your accounts are frozen with the Candy Tribe. There is nothing I can do about it. If they knew I paid you with out receiving what you owe them I will be kicked out. Sorry my hands are tied.

You lied to the 3 guys at Apples and Oranges about how I killed Windwalker even though it was actually the Chief. You lied to them about how I couldn't be trusted.

False. You killed everyone that died in that month from posting on the forums. You killed them not me, not Chief, and not Colesie. I didn't lie to them about how they couldn't trust you. No one should you killed over 40 people in less than 3 days.

You lied to Colesie about protecting him at the Arena. You lied to everybody about you joining the Tribe.

False. Colesie was well aware he was stationed in the same safe area as Chief. He should of known that the Chief was going to summon him eventually that was out of my hands. He was given enough time to go put himself somewhere else. Him dying to the chief has nothing to do with me. I can't protect someone who's leanto is right next to someone else. I literally had nothing to do with it.

You and Dreth lied to me about not wanting to kill me at the Arena when I delivered the canoe thief.

False. You should know by now if I want to kill someone I kill them. If I really wanted you dead you would of died several times over already especially since you frequently left the Roanoke Claim with me.

If I pay them, you'll just keep the 2000s and I'll be out another 500s so just drop the *****.

False. As soon as you pay them you get your 2000s. You make more than that with almost no effort in your stall. Also PmP and Chief will stop undercutting you on their stall.

You or PmP can troll me as much as you want, and it's not about the money. It's about how I was one of your biggest supporters and trusted you until you pulled this ***** and the rest of the ***** over the last month. You're right, 2 months ago I would have supported you and given you info on any raiders. Now I trust some of them more than you.

False. We are not trolling you. You pay up, you get what Greb and CandyQueen owes you.

Also you are going back on my ignore list on the forums. I took you off of it and you are already going back over everything that happened a month ago. I knew you wouldn't be able to resist.

[Claeyt]

Aww don't look at it as jumping into old stuff, look at it as a fresh perspective on stale stuff And from where I am sitting, it seems your fingers seem to type things before your brain fully processes them ... this particular thread, for example, is not an old issue at all ... Oh there is history behind the characters involved, no doubt, but you turned a case of someone ticketing an exploit into a grand conspiracy before backpedalling when the truth was found to be far simpler and lacking all of the sinister intent that you blindly stated was behind it all ... You make negative remarks about Binks' character and trustworthiness in business deals without disclosing the additional detail of incomplete deals at your end as well? The fact that you made a bursed a loan to a creditor, whether you believe it a just debt or not, doesn't quite ring true with regards to a scam at the Tribe end ... All I know (which is more than I care to, I wasn't there and it's done no less) is what's gone in this thread, which as a newcomer looking in does not reflect well on you at all.

How so? I had nothing to do with any of this except that I know all of them. Judaism shouldn't have robbed that noob that was KO'd by a beaver. Kit Kat and the Chief probably had his scents from somewhere else anyways but maybe not. The Chief is a member of the Master Mason's forum which means he has more direct access to the Dev's than you or me. The Dev's are generally pretty hard to get ahold of especially for stupid stuff like nuking cabinets in town. I believe Binks when he said he got ahold of one of them on the IRC. They haven't been as accessible there lately, but it's good news if he was able to get ahold of them. It means they're paying attention to the game still. So I didn't blindly state anything. I thought that the Chief was the one that got the cabinet hiding the scent nuked because he was the OP. Binks did it, so fine. It's a small part of the whole story here.

It was a big drama waiting to happen. I think Willy, Stormie, and Judaism weren't expecting the Chief and Binks to be able to find them that fast. I think the Chief and Binks got lucky in finding them at Stormie's (Darkside's old base). The saddest thing about all of this is that now that the base is toast Darkside will never come back and he was a great guy to play with.

The debt and Binks and the Chief working together are the long standing story of this last month. It means that the Candy Queen is probably done with the Game and the rest of the Candy Gang didn't participate either. That means that the biggest group over the last 4 months broke up, probably forever. If Binks couldn't get them on for a kill like this then they'll probably never come back.