Shizen wrote:L33LEE wrote:Shizen wrote:This is obviously completely untrue. I could crack that base, as could about 8 other people I can think of off hand, and we're all mid-tier players..
If you think you can walk into a 20+ brazier concentrated base ALONE (from what your statement sounds like) in a 20x20 tile area, behind a stone wall and destroy the base, your either hacking the game or have 2000+ Black bile, which i would love to see you prove either one.
Either way, your statement clearly shows you are a complete *******, and have no clue how brazier damage really works or what your talking about.
We shall call this, colesie syndrome.
*Points you towards the 99.99%*
That's what I like about you, L33Lee, you're a fair, balanced, reasonable person, not given to hyperbolic outrageous statements or juvenile personal attacks. A class act. I bet we'd get on in real life too.
I will grant that phrasing was unclear. No one raids "straight up" with one character against a base with overlapping brazier fire that I'm aware of. By me, I meant myself and my raiding helpers. Which is to say 4-6 medium toons could taken the base you describe. As for proof, you're just showing a false face. You know I'm right. I, however, have no intention of exposing our combat alts over a pointless forum argument. I can imagine how gracefully you would respond to that.
Belling the pclaim would also work, though I don't see anyone doing that on a lark. The reality of the game, however, is that only the biggest groups on each server would attack that claim, because no one else would be willing to risk scents on their combat alts. Just like I'm not willing to. So the "effectiveness" of that defense is really based on the personality/whims of the dominant raid group on the perspective newb's server. That is a social defense, not a crunch one. Your assertion is invalid.
I would like to point out the difference also in attacking an abandoned active claim, with 20~ braziers, and a defended active claim of 20+ braziers.
I can assure you, if you + 10 friends, all 200-300 biles, was to attack a base i owned, none of you would get past the first wall. Why i was online. EVER. I would not even need to risk my main, i would have a 5 bile alt, with stomp, standing there, wait untill you got close. Stomp through wall. You have choice of 2. Run or die.
The sad fact still remains, with the current game mechanics, if you get raided by being an active player, there is no one else to blame but yourself. 20+ braziers + 5 bile stomp alt, would even keep a 1000 bile titan out of a base indefinitely.
All of this is were the player (defender or attack) needs serious intelligence to play this game correctly.
I would like to point out, i have been killed once, and raided once. I own about 10~ bases in total, all active, all well defended.
The first time i was killed, was because we was infiltrated by Glennfinn who was a spy, who then relayed messages to dallane + bait or others, to strike, and due to very sloppy gameplay, lost my first character about 5 days into the roanoak server launch. ( a 15 bile )
The only base i have lost was due to a huge russian raid (Pre wall buff) were 15~20 of them turned up with 200~ biles. Was 3 of us defending. Took the russians 10~ hours to force us to roanoak by teleportation (base central vault was lost), and this was PRE WALL BUFF.
So yea, it 3 x 80 bile chars, can keep 15x200 bile~ russians on the offence for 8+ hours of raiding, PRE WALL BUFF, Then people who are getting raided and stomped now in 1h, must be doing something very very very ***** wrong.
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