Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Papi » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:52 pm

Procne wrote:And I disagree. I don't even know why MagicManICT and Potjeh are on this list. They have been good moderators both here and on HnH forums. Sure, they can make some mistakes - they are only humans after all. But I would trust their judgement over anyone's, who seems to oppose them. I guess their biggest "crime" was presenting their own opinions

Oh well, if you don't make any enemies then it means you didn't do much.

Because they are the only active moderators, how can you tell the difference between a good and a bad one if you only saw the bad (good according to you) ones in action ?

Most of them have never played Salem on a competetive level, so they have no clue what they are talking about most of the time...
If they talk, it's biased or with heavy favoritism... or they praise another game and call current Salem mechanics broken because they couldn't catch up... :shock:
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Procne » Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:03 pm

Papi wrote:Because they are the only active moderators, how can you tell the difference between a good and a bad one if you only saw the bad (good according to you) ones in action ?

Most of them have never played Salem on a competetive level, so they have no clue what they are talking about most of the time...
If they talk, it's biased or with heavy favoritism... or they praise another game and call current Salem mechanics broken because they couldn't catch up... :shock:


First of all, I have been playing Salem since August 2012, and since then there have been more active moderators.
Second, I used to play HnH for some time, where Potjeh, MagicMan, and, again, many other people, moderated the forums.
Third, if they played on competitive level then favoritism and bias allegations would be even stronger, no?

IMO, " they don't play on a competetive level, so they have no clue what they are talking about most of the time" is the least problem when it comes to moderation. They aren't supposed to be customer / tech support or game guides. They are supposed to keep order on forums.

or they praise another game and call current Salem mechanics broken because they couldn't catch up...

Quotes please. Ones that show those 2 moderators breaking forum rules or working against community.
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Darkside » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:11 pm

The mods are witches!

Lets see if they float in water!

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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Dallane » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:48 pm

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Onionfighter wrote:Hmm. . . without paradox, will there be any new art assets?


There's a fairly large back-log of relevant things such as animals and whatnot. We won't be running out any time soon.


I hope animals come in the lethal variety this time. Would also be nice for them to have some sort of cammo and not show up on the minimap. Thanks.
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby KitKat » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:09 pm

Procne wrote:
Papi wrote:Because they are the only active moderators, how can you tell the difference between a good and a bad one if you only saw the bad (good according to you) ones in action ?

Most of them have never played Salem on a competetive level, so they have no clue what they are talking about most of the time...
If they talk, it's biased or with heavy favoritism... or they praise another game and call current Salem mechanics broken because they couldn't catch up... :shock:


First of all, I have been playing Salem since August 2012, and since then there have been more active moderators.
Second, I used to play HnH for some time, where Potjeh, MagicMan, and, again, many other people, moderated the forums.
Third, if they played on competitive level then favoritism and bias allegations would be even stronger, no?

IMO, " they don't play on a competetive level, so they have no clue what they are talking about most of the time" is the least problem when it comes to moderation. They aren't supposed to be customer / tech support or game guides. They are supposed to keep order on forums.

or they praise another game and call current Salem mechanics broken because they couldn't catch up...

Quotes please. Ones that show those 2 moderators breaking forum rules or working against community.


They are both very biased. You can't tell me they aren't.
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Darkside » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:12 pm

Dallane wrote:
jorb wrote:
Onionfighter wrote:Hmm. . . without paradox, will there be any new art assets?


There's a fairly large back-log of relevant things such as animals and whatnot. We won't be running out any time soon.


I hope animals come in the lethal variety this time. Would also be nice for them to have some sort of cammo and not show up on the minimap. Thanks.


Lethal animals that hide from the minimap... isn't the player pop small enough as it is? :D
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Procne » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:16 pm

KitKat wrote:They are both very biased. You can't tell me they aren't.

Biased against what?
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Pjotr84 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:34 pm

Seriously? Magicman and Potjeh should be taken off the mod list? :lol:

They're the best mods around and are the most experienced in dealing with not only the Salem, but also the HnH people. Same goes for Teckxknight.
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby darnokpl » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:36 pm

Procne wrote:
KitKat wrote:They are both very biased. You can't tell me they aren't.

Biased against what?


Against bs on forums ;)
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Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby T0ne » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:49 pm

I am really surprised to see all the positive responses in this thread. I for one really wanted to see Salem handed off to a full development team, to see Paradox taking an even less hands on approach is actually the complete opposite of what this game needs.

Two developers cannot and will not be enough to get this game to anywhere close to its full potential. More so when they are rebuilding HnH from the ground up.

I mean none of this as an insult, you guys are very talented, but its very obvious that a game of this nature needs something that the two of you (or any two people) cannot provide without the backing of a team, once again not an insult, but an observation of the situation at hand.
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