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Re: Wish you were here

Postby Pjotr84 » Wed May 29, 2013 2:26 am

Dallane is actually spot on. By using T3 crops you can make decent chars now without needing to concern yourself with purity, at least for a lot longer than before the patch that made foods from better crops better. Getting a few dedicated people together isn't that hard, but still lets you do anything you want.
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby martinuzz » Wed May 29, 2013 2:56 am

Yeah. With 10% purity tier 3 foods you can go quite a long way towards building your own titans. Just takes some effort, just like it took players with higher stats than you effort to get there.
Please stop complaining about old players having enormous advantages. Go browse the stalls, and buy yourself some 15% purity boards, feed up some pythons to 5% using herbs and shrooms, make some compost bins, put your happily bloated worms in the bin and get started on pushing influence on your fields.

I only wish more of the people that are on hold awaiting better times would realize that the new tier foods alleviate a lot of the nerf, and come back to the game. There's so many people MIA.
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby kyoshox » Wed May 29, 2013 4:33 am

rustles wrote:Yeah I'm definitely not joining a town without a good reputation, not that they would trust me either.

Not to complain or anything, just want to add input regarding the imbalance between players with unreachable god powers and harmless newbs who can never stand a chance at competing.

It just ruins a certain aspect of the game, the one that likely brought most people to try it. The permadeath aspect. Basically, if you reach the agricultural stage after the nerf, you are exempt from raiding, becoming a bounty hunter, or anything that isn't a peaceful farmer who hopes every day to remain un-noticed and un-raided. Because of that, they are the number one target of raiders.

Practically defensless, sitting ducks. One god char can simply walk by, take down several plank fences, destroy all of your tier 3 fields, steal all of your stuff, and ruin months worth of work in an hour. The farmer on the other hand simply cannot do anything about it. If he happens to track him, surprise, he claimed a leanto in side of a town claim with several layers of plank walls, and tons of blazers.

If the farmer even attempted to break in, the blazers will pwn him well before he could do considerable damage to a plank wall with his low humors.

What I'm trying to say, without sounding like I'm complaining, is that the aspect of the game that drew a lot of people in turned out to be a fraud. For this reason, all the people I started playing salem with have either stopped playing or quit for good. Not everybody wants to play the role of the peaceful farmer who hopelessly cowers in fear hoping somebody doesn't just swing in and ruin months worth of work without consequences.

We wanted to be bounty hunters once we reached end game... Now I'm just farming alone, planting trees, and stuff. Not as thrilling as I had hoped.

I don't mind farming, I like that part of the game. It's just that a lot find it boring, and it is boring playing by my self. Kinda takes away from the MMORPG aspect without people to play with.

Of course we'd have assholes with god chars them selves who will happily try to argue against this every chance they have, like that darmoth guy who calls everybody retarded, because clearly they don't want to loss the massive advantage they have over everybody else.


i dont understand why there wasnt a glutteny cap like 200 each or 500 but thats still high

but i kinda understand what ur talking about. i was wondering around and seen a old claim the next day i go check it out all the walls where distroyed and i moved, the place was a wreck it looked like a twister was on his land and distroyed everything
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby sonny_iii » Wed May 29, 2013 4:36 am

Darwoth wrote:server transfers and no wipes is what was promised, if those promises are not realized and i am expected to start over again for the fifth time after spending money to support the game, spending time merchanting to acquire silver, digging three thousand miles of dirt, and endlessly warring other factions (solo!) to achieve my power position because some incompetents are upset there are a handful of characters stronger than they are i will simply move along as i am sure most of the current non quitting playerbase will.

then less than a month after a wipe or new server all of the current quitters and whiners will find themself at the bottom of the pile again and ***** about whatever latest "unfair" outrage there is when their 15 stat **** character gets killed before once again quitting.


i am currently producing 16% humus, as time goes on that level will increase. however i am confident that with crops in that purity range and enough tier 3 fields i could make a 400 - 500 stat character already, the mechanics exist in the game to be competitive, perhaps you retards should have spent the last two months working with them instead of throwing your hands in the air and giving up expecting a handout in the form of a wipe after people like myself do all the testing/discovering/handholding/guide writing for you.



on jamestown there are 3 different players with "titans" i am aware of, of those three i am the only one still playing and the other two are locked in their old towns ruins unable to log on without being killed, so if someone wants a "titan free" server all they need do is settle on jamestown, stay away from my general area and you are unlikely to ever see one.




hey hey now i can get on with out dieing... (i know u when talking about me but i am the 2nd strongest in Jamestown right now) just dont like the changes... dont have time for the more extensive grind that's y i quit... people do have work kids and other stuff to do other then grinding wood and other ****... so when that's fixed im back... AND THE NEW EBONENHEART WILL BE ALIVE AND WELL AGAIN!!!!... this time pan wont let u in... lol at pan...
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby colesie » Wed May 29, 2013 4:37 am

The problem with humour levels being able to reach ungodly levels is the fact that defenses will always remain the same. If a new wall type were to be added which could only be broken by using a timed tool such as a ram then there's no real problem with these uncapped humours considering you can just grind moar to fight them
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby sonny_iii » Wed May 29, 2013 4:50 am

colesie wrote:The problem with humour levels being able to reach ungodly levels is the fact that defenses will always remain the same. If a new wall type were to be added which could only be broken by using a timed tool such as a ram then there's no real problem with these uncapped humours considering you can just grind moar to fight them



thank you... now can we take game back to where it used to be so i can play again.... reverse nerf im tired of playing league of legends... and spending time with my finance... (dont tell her i said that please....)
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby kyoshox » Wed May 29, 2013 4:54 am

i been playing for about a month i dont have t3 feilds yet but i have about 65 of each bile so i dont really see the problem othere then it took less time and effort
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby colesie » Wed May 29, 2013 5:05 am

kyoshox wrote:i been playing for about a month i dont have t3 feilds yet but i have about 65 of each bile so i dont really see the problem othere then it took less time and effort

What I am saying is that walls will only become easier to break the higher your humours increase. It is possible to get incredibly high and uncapped humours so after a while players will be far too powerful for current mechanics. Increasing the wall strength isn't the answer because that only makes it harder for the average-humoured players and the higher players will only continue to get higher. True defense would mean an unbreakable by hand wall type such as brick walls in haven. Characters can grind their humours to the sky, but not to the point where no one else can prosper because their defenses are meaningless.
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby Spazzmaticus » Wed May 29, 2013 6:31 am

colesie wrote:What I am saying is that walls will only become easier to break the higher your humours increase. It is possible to get incredibly high and uncapped humours so after a while players will be far too powerful for current mechanics. Increasing the wall strength isn't the answer because that only makes it harder for the average-humoured players and the higher players will only continue to get higher. True defense would mean an unbreakable by hand wall type such as brick walls in haven. Characters can grind their humours to the sky, but not to the point where no one else can prosper because their defenses are meaningless.


With the town bell you still have a situation where your defenses are literally impenetrable. No matter how high your humours go you'll never be able to commit waste crimes with a bell in place. Really, the only change I'd like to see is making waste totems having a time limit and/or being easier to destroy. Once that is done there is very little difference between the rams in haven and the totems in salem. It'll certainly take a lot of focus away from high humours.
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Re: Wish you were here

Postby Potjeh » Wed May 29, 2013 8:11 am

Destruction speed should be capped IMO.
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