MM Tribe Treaty

[Judaism]

I have a theory; people would rather quit than (continue to) pay the treaty.

After solving this:



I can say with proud, that it is not a theory anymore but a fact.

[Lusewing]

Some people might prefer to quit but there are quite a few then enjoy the stability and safety a little extra coin can bring. I know of two new groups on the server (both consisting to one older player and friends they have brought in) who have signed up to the treaty with no threats issued to do so. Those that do not wish to pay, thats fine, it is all part of the game, but constantly blaming the Tribe's actions to the low numbers on the server is not only wrong but also very boring.

All servers are losing players due to the initial excitement of the game waring off, exams (I believe it is finales around this time), and simply people giving up because they cant handle the harshness of the game. It only stands to reason that Plymouth would have the lower players because it is an older server, thus players will always join the younger worlds in the hope they can reach the slightly lower conditions to be a top player.

Larger and more powerful factions have often called for a tax or tribute from weaker players. It helps insure loyalty and helps keeps the faction 'on top' - which is beneficial to those that are paying as they then earn protection from the highest power.

[McGovern]

I have a theory; people would rather quit than (continue to) pay the treaty.

Yep I think you can see server pops speaking that. I forsee only 3 outcomes for the chief because of the way he treats others.

1. The game dies because those with a life quit and are sick of being ganked by over power chars.
2. Somehow noobs sratch out an exsistance and the pop grows long enough for a huge group to get together and bring them down.
3. The game lives but the pop stays pretty much all tribe with pretty much no new player. With no one to get their rocks off on they turn on each other destroying themselves.

You'll reap what you sow.

[McGovern]

Some people might prefer to quit but there are quite a few then enjoy the stability and safety a little extra coin can bring. I know of two new groups on the server (both consisting to one older player and friends they have brought in) who have signed up to the treaty with no threats issued to do so. Those that do not wish to pay, thats fine, it is all part of the game, but constantly blaming the Tribe's actions to the low numbers on the server is not only wrong but also very boring.

All servers are losing players due to the initial excitement of the game waring off, exams (I believe it is finales around this time), and simply people giving up because they cant handle the harshness of the game. It only stands to reason that Plymouth would have the lower players because it is an older server, thus players will always join the younger worlds in the hope they can reach the slightly lower conditions to be a top player.

Larger and more powerful factions have often called for a tax or tribute from weaker players. It helps insure loyalty and helps keeps the faction 'on top' - which is beneficial to those that are paying as they then earn protection from the highest power.

They call that extortion and people don't apprecate it.

[Dallane]

It only stands to reason that Plymouth would have the lower players because it is an older server, thus players will always join the younger worlds in the hope they can reach the slightly lower conditions to be a top player.

Check the server pops and you will see how untrue that is at times.

[jrsydevil]

They call that extortion and people don't apprecate it.[/quote]


I'm a new player (around 2 months).. and I pay the Treaty. The way I look at it, If not for the fact that the strongest players on the server are willing to protect your 'stead for a (seriously) small amount of silver, new players would be subject to raids by roving gangs of 100-bile hooligans who would operate with impunity. Were that the case, i probably would have quit after the first raid..

Especially now, with the purity changes, it would be pretty difficult for noobies to get up to the point where they could successfully defend themselves and their hard-earned improvements from players with just a couple more months played.

The way it stands now... We have a force of Heavy-duty veterans to protect us that NOBODY has the power or will to ***** with.. who are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make sure that we can enjoy playing the game in peace... and for this they ask a measly recompense in comparison to what they provide. Bear in mind that it can take hours and hours for them to track down a perpetrator... with no guarantee of any kind of profit in the venture...


I DON'T call that extortion... and I DO appreciate it..

[kruskdamangled]

They call that extortion and people don't apprecate it.

I'm a new player (around 2 months).. and I pay the Treaty. The way I look at it, If not for the fact that the strongest players on the server are willing to protect your 'stead for a (seriously) small amount of silver, new players would be subject to raids by roving gangs of 100-bile hooligans who would operate with impunity. Were that the case, i probably would have quit after the first raid..

Especially now, with the purity changes, it would be pretty difficult for noobies to get up to the point where they could successfully defend themselves and their hard-earned improvements from players with just a couple more months played.

The way it stands now... We have a force of Heavy-duty veterans to protect us that NOBODY has the power or will to ***** with.. who are willing to dedicate their time and effort to make sure that we can enjoy playing the game in peace... and for this they ask a measly recompense in comparison to what they provide. Bear in mind that it can take hours and hours for them to track down a perpetrator... with no guarantee of any kind of profit in the venture...


I DON'T call that extortion... and I DO appreciate it..[/quote]

Gee, or you can play in a server that isn't like that, take reasonable precautions, and never get bothered at all.

I know of people who are incredibly wealthy and well established on certain servers who never, ever get bothered by anyone. There is an element of forethought and strategy to this.
You can't expect to settle near other people you don't trust and be undisturbed.

[McGovern]

When u threaten a persons property and life in exchange for a fee they call it extortion!

[jrsydevil]

Gee, or you can play in a server that isn't like that, take reasonable precautions, and never get bothered at all.

I know of people who are incredibly wealthy and well established on certain servers who never, ever get bothered by anyone. There is an element of forethought and strategy to this.
You can't expect to settle near other people you don't trust and be undisturbed.[/quote]


Gee... Or you can be a new player who finds himself on Plymouth (I played for 2 weeks before I even knew what server I was on)... doesn't know what reasonable precautions should be taken... and still want to play Salem.

[Lusewing]

In a game like this you are really worried about extortion? What do you suggest be done then? Ok so no one pays the Tribe, fair enough - we are now all free game for the Tribe, something I am pretty sure the Tribe would enjoy. Not everyone will be found, that is true enough, but a lot will be and there is almost nothing a player can do to stop them from attacking and destroying their base (at the very least).

Yes it is extortion.
Yes it is a protection racket
Yes it is a Tax by an un-elected government

These might be bad in the modern era but in Salem there is no Police force, there are no human rights. There are just those that can and those that cannot. The Tribe are law and executioner because they can be. If there is some other faction around that wants to try and take control of the server, and thinks they can, then go for it - I, however, will not be holding my breath.