Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Darkside » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:44 pm

Burseig wrote:Step by step here is the process (with random numbers).

Forage plants to feed you worms (best i got is 39+ in lead). With quite some time your worms will get close to 39, but quite fast will go above 30. Feed them as much as you can and time to time put them in a bin (don't need to put more worms that needed to get 100% worm efficiency) to get some humus.

Look for water, lime, granite of the same element (here Lead). Make gardening pots.

Put a random tree in those pots with your best water and best humus.

Plant your tree in the ground, take sapplings (after 9 days i think) and replant them in your pots. Use this tree (let say it has 28 in lead element) to make a compost bin.

Now you have a 28 lead bin plus worms above 30.

Your second tree generation will be above thirty maybe and your humus is getting better.

Repeat all this, make a new compost bin when you obtain a tree with higher element that you already have.

Produce some pumpkin with your best humus. If this one is high enough, your pumpkin will have higher element that the plant you forage to feed your worm. And they will be able to go higher that 39 lead (in my exemple).

Feed worms, plant trees, make better compost bin, get better humus, get higher element pumpkin and keep going.

That's the way to reach 99% purity in one element. But the story doesn't say how long it takes. :P


But it's not possible with the current system to reach 99% doing it this way - you are constrained by the natural granite, lime and water you can find in the wild. There is no way currently to grind up the water, lime and granite purities. Best you can hope for is around 45-50 element value (not purity) pot MAX in the game right now - disregarding any alchemy adjustments which I am too scared to touch right now. So the 45-50 element value pot will drag down the resulting tree purity no matter how high you are able to get the humus or sapling up to.
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby ysbryd » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:27 pm

99% pure is a thing of the past, the Devs dont want it, so you aint gonna get it.
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Burseig » Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:40 pm

Yeah sure we don't know where we will stop in purity. It will take a while before we reach this cap.

To have an idea we need to find the formula that rule the agriculture according to the seeds, and the humus used. And the formula that rule forestry.

For sure it will be hard or impossible to get for example 99% worms...but some old players seem to have them already...it's a bit unfair.
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby wiatrak » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:11 pm

Yes, I do have some 90+% worms, check my previous posts with some experiments with them, that worms will give me a slight advantage as the humus is very hardly softcapped by the purity of the bin. Give me about 4 days, I will cut down my latest trees and make some new tests.
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Avarice » Wed May 01, 2013 1:44 am

wiatrak wrote:Yes, I do have some 90+% worms, check my previous posts with some experiments with them, that worms will give me a slight advantage as the humus is very hardly softcapped by the purity of the bin. Give me about 4 days, I will cut down my latest trees and make some new tests.


Did you get these worms from feeding them left over high purity food you had stockpiled? Unfair man :)
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby wiatrak » Wed May 01, 2013 2:36 am

Nope, the ones im feeding are currently 30% =P
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby vitaalt » Wed May 01, 2013 7:52 am

The best worm I got atm is 4% (39.17) and max 30.49 humus that is capped by the bin
I've been working on it since the patch and feed them with 5-6% grass...
If you ask me, I would say it is a painful way to kill someone......by forcing them to forage and babysit the worms
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby k545836 » Wed May 01, 2013 9:45 am

vitaalt wrote:If you ask me, I would say it is a painful way to kill someone......by forcing them to forage and babysit the worms


There is only one relatively convinient way to feed them now - with pumpkin flesh. They realy have to teach them how to eat cabbage or seeds. Or I have to grind the pumpkins in each color I want to advance.
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby vitaalt » Wed May 01, 2013 9:55 am

There is only one relatively convinient way to feed them now - with pumpkin flesh. They realy have to teach them how to eat cabbage or seeds. Or I have to grind the pumpkins in each color I want to advance.[/quote]

My pumpkin grinding does not go well at the moment (0%)...due to the pain in the ass, aka humus
I use my pumpkin to feed the bin instead!
Apart from feeding it to the worm, I think we should be able to feed cabbage into the bin as a whole......
instead of splitting it and feeding it one by one.....
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Darkside » Wed May 01, 2013 3:16 pm

vitaalt wrote:Apart from feeding it to the worm, I think we should be able to feed cabbage into the bin as a whole......
instead of splitting it and feeding it one by one.....


Yes, please!
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