Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Snowpig » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:50 pm

28.13 merc bin with 25/25/25/25 python yields in 25.93 merc humus.

...will add more numbers in this postin
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Burseig » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:06 am

Burseig wrote:I already tried with neutral worm, it doesn t affect humus...but if i look some pages before in this thread someone claims it does. Hope they don t change game mechanics during our experiments, :lol:


Quoting myself ;)

Now I know why it's confusing.

If your worm efficiency is under 100% and a new worm pop out (25/25/25/25) humus alchemy is not affected.

But if your worm efficiency is already at 100% and a new worm appears then it decreases the purity of your humus...interesting.
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Wournos » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:39 am

^ So the best tactic is to have 99% purity worms? :lol:
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Burseig » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:18 am

I was talking about Worm efficiency in the bin, not worm purity. ^^
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Wournos » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:21 am

Sorry.
So the best tactic is to have 99% efficiency worms now? :lol:
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Burseig » Mon Apr 22, 2013 10:51 am

Influence of boards purity on humus (without any worm above or lower than 25.0) is linear. You probably noticed it but here is a graph that makes things obvious.
Keep in mind we have only two decimals in our datas, whereas the game server must handle more than two, so there will be small errors in our calculations.

I substracted 25 in the bin and humus purity to obtain a graph that cross 0,0.

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Using this equation a 99.9 alchemy bin will produce a 46,51 humus (still without any worm).
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby dageir » Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:20 pm

Excellent work!
If its confirmed by independent researchers it should go into the wiki.
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby jrsydevil » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:13 pm

Hans_Lemurson wrote:
Burseig wrote:Did someone figure out in what manner the bin itself impact purity?
If you guys could post your data.

Here is mine :

Bin with lead boards 25.44 gave humus 25.13 (no worm inside)
Bin with lead boards 36.97 gave humus 28.43 (no worm inside)


Hmm...that's some useful info there. It's a little disturbing actually, given how heavy the weight of Neutrality is.

The ratio of the influences of Board:Neutrality is about 1 : 2.5

I am very curious as to any changes that occur with the addition of Neutral Worms. Should be fairly straightforward to do.

Also, would you be able to report all of the elements? Only one matters game-wise, but they are useful as extra data points to verify computed ratios.





I did basically the same thing but recorded all the info for 2 bins...


Bin #1 - Mercury
Boards - 19.73 / 37.14 / 19.74 / 23.40
Plugs and Nails were Neutral
Humus - 24.04 / 28.49 / 23.54 / 23.94


Bin #2 - Lead
Boards - 21.22 / 21.43 / 20.51 / 36.85
Plugs and Nails were Neutral
Humus - 23.92 / 23.98 / 23.71 / 28.40

No Worms used in either bin.

This is my first attempt at creating purity humus. Do I understand correctly that the purity of the materials you add to the bin have no affect on the resulting Humus? For this example, I tossed in some zero purity seeds and cabbage leaves... I didnt record their exact alchemy.
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Re: Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby Burseig » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:32 pm

Exactly, the material you put in the bin has no impact on the production of humus.
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Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

Postby dageir » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:46 pm

All you have to keep track of is the worms and the boards as of now.
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