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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby RuneNL » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:01 pm

Kulbek, I really don't understand why you put up with this masochistic and authistic *****.

Just move already, how about servers? Thats what the tribe wants anyway.
You wouldnt be the first and surely not the last.

So much time spend on propeganda yet action shows the opposite. GG Tribe.
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby Claeyt » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:12 pm

Gallient wrote:PMP rescinded his offer of a free week, should've taken it instead of thinking you were entitled to more because you dropped 70s in a box and hoped it would make khaz go away. You have no position to negotiate anything from and I don't understand why you think you would. There are plenty of treaty payers living happily and in peace. Tribe doesn't have to offer any safety to anyone. Chief makes the treaty to give people an alternative to getting raided on sight, that doesn't mean non-treaty payers are entitled to something as well, not a 24hr notice, not "negotiations", not anything.


Can a new player at least be informed that there is a treaty and what it is before getting killed? If this guy had refused to pay the treaty or refused to talk or whatever, fine, raid him, kill him, but he agreed to pay the treaty, probably with a lot of language barrier misunderstandings, then was killed anyways. That's griefing not government.

Gallient wrote:Tribe doesn't have to offer any safety to anyone.

Part of the Treaty is that the tribe does offer safety to anyone who pays or is willing to pay when they learn about the treaty. This guy was willing to pay the treaty, but didn't know about it fully or how to pay because he was new. I'm sure this guy tried to negotiate for some noob reason and Khaz should have just posted the Thread Page in the chat line. Then he at least could've been informed as to why he was being killed. If your collector's are actually trying to get people to sign the treaty and not just raiding because they can, this would have gone down differently. Plymouth, and the Game are losing players every day just because of stuff like this. Plymouth is now below Pre-open beta players on the server status numbers I've seen, on a regular basis. It's a shame. You guys clearly love playing the game more than most, I don't know why you guys are trying to kill the server.

kulbek wrote:Members of the MM Tribe again attacked my camp. :lol:
And this is despite the fact that negotiations are taking place.
Good job boys.

Kulbek, I sympathize with your misunderstandings of the political aspects on Plymouth, but this isn't a negotiation. I'll go back to the example of you being the Raccoon having gotten hit by the MM car, I told you that they might put that car in reverse, 4 posts ago. :D You need to take this to Personal Message with Paymaster Paul and beg them for a month or two and use of the base, I doubt that you'll get it now. They're pissed about the path your post has taken. You'll prob still get your 70s back tho. :D

To PmP and the Chief,

A little ranger/treaty collector training might go a long ways towards how the newbs view the tribe. Public Relations are killing your treaty and your server.

....And once again, I'm neutral, I don't really mind the Tribe or Khaz's actions (I'm sure there were misunderstandings and then the language barrier) or Gallient or the Chief or the Treaty (Personally I think it's a great idea for a newb to join the treaty then decide later on if they want to continue with it or move). I'm just looking out for the newbs, so as to help the game grow.
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby kulbek » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:25 pm

RuneNL wrote:Kulbek, I really don't understand why you put up with this masochistic and authistic *****.

Just move already, how about servers? Thats what the tribe wants anyway.
You wouldnt be the first and surely not the last.

So much time spend on propeganda yet action shows the opposite. GG Tribe.
I explain:

1. If I go from Plymouth to Roanoke, then I lose.
2. I do not conclude any agreement with dishonest people.
Tribe made ​​a pact there and then tore it up and kill my character.
If the tribe-honest organization, it recognizes its mistake and pay compensation.
Otherwise, will not be enter into any agreements with them and this a precedent would be an example for all the other players.
You need to take this to Personal Message with Paymaster Paul and beg them for a month or two and use of the base, I doubt that you'll get it now. They're pissed about the path your post has taken. You'll prob still get your 70s back tho.
I wrote to them in a personal, but they ignored my message.

I will not write about them more of a "misunderstanding."
Let society Salem sees as greedy and dishonest tribe.
As an ax and a sword, it puts above his honor.
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby Claeyt » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:33 pm

kulbek wrote:I explain:

1. If I go from Plymouth to Roanoke, then I lose.
2. I do not conclude any agreement with dishonest people.
Tribe made ​​a pact there and then tore it up and kill my character.
If the tribe-honest organization, it recognizes its mistake and pay compensation.
Otherwise, will not be enter into any agreements with them and this a precedent would be an example for all the other players.


Yes, it would be an example for all the other players. Good Luck.
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby kulbek » Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:53 pm

Claeyt wrote:
kulbek wrote:
Yes, it would be an example for all the other players. Good Luck.

Thank you.
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby ysbryd » Thu Apr 18, 2013 3:12 pm

If you are looking for somewhere quiet to develop your character then I would recommend Jamestown, although Roanoke has several groups of russian players if you want to be amongst people who speak your language. I am sorry your experience in Salem has been bad, you will be welcomed elsewhere. Good luck.
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby FutureForJames » Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:27 pm

ysbryd wrote:If you are looking for somewhere quiet to develop your character then I would recommend Jamestown, although Roanoke has several groups of russian players if you want to be amongst people who speak your language. I am sorry your experience in Salem has been bad, you will be welcomed elsewhere. Good luck.


Why is Darworth slacking in Jamestown :/?
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby RuneNL » Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:51 pm

FutureForJames wrote:
Why is Darworth slacking in Jamestown :/?


Nah, he "plucks" you when you are ripe and juicy... Or he raids the pickers since they do all the work for him.


Check the forums, hes still doing his Darwothian things.
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby CRWebsta » Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:54 pm

The best.. the greatest... MM Tribe... i wish all could see the kindness, and wisdom they have to share... only the true of heart can do what they do... believe .. i do.. a song of crickets can be heard across the land.. they are here to help the protectors....death to all that may oppose
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Re: MM Tribe Treaty

Postby Mereni » Fri Apr 19, 2013 1:24 am

Gallient wrote:
kulbek wrote:Members of the MM Tribe again attacked my camp. :lol:


And this is despite the fact that negotiations are taking place.

Good job boys.


PMP rescinded his offer of a free week, should've taken it instead of thinking you were entitled to more because you dropped 70s in a box and hoped it would make khaz go away. You have no position to negotiate anything from and I don't understand why you think you would. There are plenty of treaty payers living happily and in peace. Tribe doesn't have to offer any safety to anyone. Chief makes the treaty to give people an alternative to getting raided on sight, that doesn't mean non-treaty payers are entitled to something as well, not a 24hr notice, not "negotiations", not anything.


^This.

Kulek, I'm sorry you're not able to understand what's going on here. But you are not really getting different treatment from anyone else. Anyone who hasn't already paid the treaty is at risk of being raided and will probably die if they are online. Some braves are a bit more carebear and will let an online player live if they agree to start paying immediately. In cases like this, the base is often still looted as a form of backpay, but not razed. Any silver Khaz found or was given was part of the nonpay penalty, not any treaty payment.

You're continued refusal to understand the position you are in is what got you raided a second time.
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