Re: Compost Bin Purity: Oh crap, how do earthworms work?

by **Erunildo** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:42 am

First of all thank you for your awesome work.

Now a question,i don't get how you raise the worm purity. I fed them some 4% shrooms only to get a small raise in element and no raise in purity. So how do you raise the purity? You feed them again? Better food? Or after you make better bins the new worms created will have better purity(which you feed etc)?

Thanks again.

P.S. Someone is selling a 46% worm for 1000s on the stalls,worm trading has begun:P

by **lachlaan** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:43 am

Purity is directly tied to the alchemical values of stuff. The formula by which purity is calculated is (Salt^2 + Mercury^2 + Sulphur^2 + Lead^2 - 0.25)*(4/3) , where the alchemical values are represented as summing up to 1. So 50 lead on an item would be written as 0.50 in this calculation. To get the multiplier of an item, the formula is (Salt^2 + mercury^2 + sulphur^2 + lead^2) * 12 - 2. So you can only really directly change the elemental composition, and by doing that achieve higher and higher purities.

by **Erunildo** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:04 am

Hey,thanks for the reply.

I knew this formula,the thing is how do you raise the elemental composition in worms? Just feeding them doesn't seem to give any decent raise.

by **lachlaan** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:09 am

I assume that's how it's meant to work. Like other people have also noticed, they seem to be gaining 10% of the difference between their own alchemical composition and the one of the food they eat. And given that they eat every 12 hours, it's just a matter of feeding them enough times, with high enough food each time to get your worms to the alchemical composition you want.

by **Erunildo** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:15 am

Ah ok,so you can re-feed them any number of times you want. Now i get it.

Thanks;)

by **lachlaan** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:25 am

Now we just need the ability to make houses made entirely out of sweets, to attract unsuspecting earthworms, feed them till they get nice and plump .. and theeeeen ... stick them in the compost bins! xD

by **Darkside** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:48 pm

Has anyone tried to test the nail purity speculation?

It should be pretty easy to do if you have a source of some decent purity iron available. Sacrifice one bar of purity metal to produce nails, then use those nails to build a compost bin with null purity boards - 25/25/25/25. Fill up some material and record the humus - if there is any variation in purity in the humus at all it is a clear indication that the nails are affecting it.

I will try to see if I can get a hold of some good purity metal to test with in the meantime in case no one else is able

Also, has anyone started playing with purity wood in bins yet and care to share results? I am saving my trees from first round of growing to produce more cuttings until I get successful trees from them.

by **BubbaMKII** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:50 pm

Fed 36% pure, merc (68.something) food to 25/25/25/25 pythons.
Result: 0% purity, 1.03 multiplier, merc went to 29.something
Sorry for not having exact stats but it sucks balls anyway so, who cares?
This whole thing is just taking the piss really.

by **Burseig** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:32 pm

We now know that worm will gain 10% of the difference between their alchemy and the food alchemy.

So if you give 68 salt food to a 25 salt worm.
You will end up with :
food - worm 68-25=43
take 10% of this 43/10= 4.3
Add it to worm alchemy 25+4.3 =29.3 salt worm.

You will not get high purity worm in one day. The worm has to eat several times before you see nice improvements.

If you keep giving 68 salt food to your worm, here is what you ll get :
After 1st food : 29.3 (+4.3 increase)
2nd food : 33.2 ( +3.9 )
3rd food : 36.7 (+3.5 )
4th food : 39.8 (+3.1 )
5th food : 42.6 (+2.8 )

That's why it s not a one day job.

by **dmdisco** » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:31 pm

Burseig wrote:You will not get high purity worm in one day. The worm has to eat several times before you see nice improvements.

yea like farming also used to be.

i must say the last two updates really grows on you, i like tinkering with this sort of stuff and yes i know its not so easy anymore cant just buy you own high purity crops machine, now you have to grind it out yourself.

on topic: so i guess its better to start off with the lower purity collectables and use the high grade stuff when the worms get in the 40ish alch.