So You're A Rebel, Now What?

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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby colesie » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:15 pm

What is this? A Head-Dress? A coat? No rebellion mask that marks the symbol of the Rebellion and its founding father Mushibag? As you can tell your so-called "Leader" of the Rebellion spends the majority of his time dressing up as a "Larping indian" to avoid Tribe detection.

It's just what I happened to be wearing at the time. I was trying out a new look but all of my villagers have since assured me that I have zero fashion sense. I would have to agree with them.

Did you know that your Rebellion Leader has a 20+ Page Thread where he donated 10's of thousands of Silver to the Tribe before being outcasted after failing his Vision Quest to join?

Already discussed and broken down in another thread, loot received was no where near 10k silver, 2-3k at best and I used the treaty ranger bs as an excuse to raid and test out that aspect of the game freely. I lied about a large portion of the loot you ever saw. I may have made "10's of thousands of silver" but you never saw it, that's for sure ;)

How does it make the entire server feel to know that Colesie has seized your citizenship without any actions from yourself? Do you see the Tribe running around making broad claims that all players who do NOT donate to Coles are now Tribal Braves? What does it say of an organization who is so desperate for companionship and membership that they simply make broad statements of citizenship and support across hundreds if not thousands of players who care to not be involved in their poor decisions? While the Tribe may punish players for their actions and failure to support the justice system that keeps our server safe at no point in time do we broadly announce your loyalties prior to you making them. The Tribe treats you as free men. Yes, that includes Free to choose death should you fail to pay the treaty, but you are still Free to choose your affiliation none-the-less.

If you do not pay the treaty you are indeed a rebel against the treaty. It does not however make you part of the Rebellion. Giving the tribe your location, paying a blood tax and then being forced to continue to pay is not freedom. And neither is not paying the treaty only to be killed repeatedly until a payment is made. The term rebel is a broad term but it does not mean that you are a part of the Rebellion.

Did you know that Coles spent weeks building a giant Pit in the MM Lands including a giant paved M?

Again was covered before. I was about a total of 7-9 hours of work on the pit and I mostly agreed to do it because as you can all tell from my church, I enjoy building things like that. I was originally going to go through your vision quest nonsense since I'd built up some good favor with you "rangering" to summon kill the lot of you but I stopped my attempts once I heard news of Realak still being inside of the tribe meaning that I would have been killed upon joining. I did not intend to let you bleed free work out of me knowing the final outcome.

Here we have YET ANOTHER official Statement from the Rebellion that they fully support alt-spamming and alt-walling which is and has been a major form of bug abuse for months now. You should ask yourself, while you wait for The Great Spirit to patch bugs would you prefer to work with the Tribe who promotes fair gameplay and works to eliminate all unintended game mechanics or should you choose to join the Rebellion who has never been shy about advertising their need for bug abuse?

Yes. I support alt walls. If you are against this practice then you do not need to be a part of the Rebellion. Alt walls have been a problem since 2009 when haven began and it's set to have been solved. Until this has been fixed, I will continue to use this tactic.

Did you know that Coles use to be a "somebody" in HnH? Did you know that he advocated for the bug abuse in that game as well? Did you also know that Coles use to have almost 100 Mines inside of Fields which was also a known bug? Did you know that Coles has quit and has threatened to quit multiple times when bugs get patched in the game? Is this the type of person you really want to affiliate with?

When I say that I quit I am not being serious. I have yet to quit Haven or Salem as I have active bases on both games. And yes, I did use the 1x1 tile bug but saying that I support all bugs is retarded. Here is a thread I wrote on the haven forums highlighting known bugs and asking for them to be fixed. I've also provided many solutions to the problems there, and have provided many for known Salem bugs as well. If it helps the underdog, I am willing to use it.
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/vie ... 52#p378696

Coles Advocating HnH Bug Abuse
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4450&start=30#p51989

That is not advocating. That is giving an example of alt abuse based on a thread on the haven forums (which you should really read up on)

Coles Showing his Bugged Fields Gone
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4450&start=50#p52018

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Who has elected Colesie to be the voice of the Rebellion? If a Rebel is truly "somebody who does not pay the treaty" then do all those hundreds of players know that Coles has appointed himself as their single voice and do they know that they may not voice their objectives without messaging him first? When is the last time you saw the Tribe openly reprimands their Braves on the forums for sharing their voice and individuality?

I've been seen as the so-called "leader" since Realak stole your ****. You need better intel because we have several chats that apparently you've yet to get a spy into where I've been appointed as an unofficial leader. The Tribe does not need to "reprimand" its Braves on the forums because any Braves are already in a group chat together. The Rebellion is server-wide and not all of the faces are known.

The Rebellion is giving the illusion of the less strict organization in terms of rules and commitments, however, before this post is even done we see that you are regulated on who you can even talk to. For an organization that hangs its banners on the guise of freedom you would think that "Freedom of Speech" would have clawed its way higher on their list of priorities.

Orlpar was kicked from chats for being too close to the tribe. We may be preaching freedom but we're not stupid. Spies are a very real threat and they will be removed when found or suspected. Simple as that.

FUN FACT: Did you know that choosing to affiliate with Coles causes your base and all witnesses to be eliminated when you are found?

That goes for anyone who is against the tribe, this is not news.

That was a lot of effort, nice try though.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby jwhitehorn » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:17 pm

dageir wrote:Hmm. Nice image. Looks like the eagle comes out from your gourd area.


Very interesting perception. Actually you can tell by the expression on the Eagle's face that I am engaging in something we call in the Tribe "Placing your Singing Log in the Wrong Stump". It can be painful at first but the Eagle eventually relaxes and gets use to it.

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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby jwhitehorn » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:20 pm

colesie wrote:Wall of text


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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby colesie » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:22 pm

jwhitehorn wrote:
colesie wrote:Wall of text


Vision Quest Complete. Please send me a Forum PM to receive your next assignment.

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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby dageir » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:27 pm

I told you so! He was in the tribe all along.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby colesie » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:30 pm

dageir wrote:I told you so! He was in the tribe all along.

Lol, if by all along you mean "never" then yes :) ALL ALONG! :shock:
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Gallient » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:32 pm

Most these rebels are barely active. JC is too busy mod abusing on forums to play the game. Dallane is the guy running around Boston trying to steal from barrels. Bait thinks his characters are still secret. None of them will come out of the shadows to help you if you're attacked, short of maybe abusing alts. They want you to be road bumps to distract the Tribe or a source of free stuff. Better off supporting Yasso tbh....

Don't think if they weren't so worried about leaving scents they wouldn't be raiding and murdering everyone they came across for the lulz. That's what they did prewipe and that is what they would have continued to do postwipe if a man called the Chief hadn't outclassed them.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Sachaztan » Mon Apr 08, 2013 9:33 pm

Tylan wrote:
Sachaztan wrote:So you do believe in Jorb after all?


Of course. We are His creations, fighting daily against the loftar and his wily ways. But I suppose preaching and such would be considered larping and against what the rebels stand for.


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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Dallane » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:10 am

Gallient wrote: Dallane is the guy running around Boston trying to steal from barrels.

Don't think if they weren't so worried about leaving scents they wouldn't be raiding and murdering everyone they came across for the lulz. That's what they did prewipe and that is what they would have continued to do postwipe if a man called the Chief hadn't outclassed them.


You 4got the part of scamming you guys on snake skulls because for some reason you guys don't share scammer ID.

GREG HASTUR STRIKES AGAIN.

Also thats what me bait and TTT did prewipe along with a few other guys who are not playing anymore. I've been leaving scents in quite a few places. There isn't much to be scared of thanks to you good folks in the fire clan along with the new channel. There was a thread that was quickly removed about a raid recently lololol.
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Re: So You're A Rebel, Now What?

Postby Gallient » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:21 am

Dallane wrote:You 4got the part of scamming you guys on snake skulls because for some reason you guys don't share scammer ID.

GREG HASTUR STRIKES AGAIN.

Also thats what me bait and TTT did prewipe along with a few other guys who are not playing anymore. I've been leaving scents in quite a few places. There isn't much to be scared of thanks to you good folks in the fire clan along with the new channel. There was a thread that was quickly removed about a raid recently lololol.


And there is your GH-backed rebellion for you. Willing to scam and betray people on a whim.
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